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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes - my point that you arent interested in discussing the issue presented here - what The Obama thnks is a problem, and how He has improved the situation, as claimed -- only avoiding it.

    You've proven it. Thank you.
    What about the text I quoted in the article? You've got nothing to say about that?
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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I haven't been able to read the article yet, but it does seem like a lot of silliness to me so far. Seriously, it's kind of a general statement that reasonable people make. We're always working to make everything better. Seems kind of silly and poor self esteemish to try and make this an issue.
    How so?
    Aren't you interested in what flaws the President sees in our democracy, especially given that he's supposedly taken great steps in fixing them?

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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    What about the text I quoted in the article? You've got nothing to say about that?
    You mean:
    "Both presidents agreed that you don't ever reach democracy; you always have to work at it. And in particular, President Obama reminded his Kazakh counterpart that we, too, are working to improve our democracy."
    Seems to me this is the impetus behind my questions...

    But you aren't interested in discussing that, so...

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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You mean:

    Seems to me this is the impetus behind my questions...

    But you aren't interested in discussing that, so...
    So in order to find out what Obama meant as "the problems", the only way for us to find out is if The Obama is going to tell us. So what are we going to discuss if The Obama doesn't come into this thread and tell us what it is?
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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    How so?
    Aren't you interested in what flaws the President sees in our democracy, especially given that he's supposedly taken great steps in fixing them?
    No, it was a general statement, not dissimilar to the ones I make concerning working on improving my profession, job, institution. It seems silly to try and turn that statement into anything serious.

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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    So in order to find out what Obama meant as "the problems", the only way for us to find out is if The Obama is going to tell us. So what are we going to discuss if The Obama doesn't come into this thread and tell us what it is?
    You may continue to avoid the issue, if you want.

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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, it was a general statement, not dissimilar to the ones I make concerning working on improving my profession, job, institution.
    And yet, if you said such a thing, and made the claim you had improved the situation, you'd be able to provide examples of those problems, and the solutions you have implemented.

    It seems silly to try and turn that statement into anything serious.
    Well, it IS The Obama we're discussing, so I am not surprised you think that.

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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You may continue to avoid the issue, if you want.
    I've given you a problem, YOU didn't want to talk about it. You said that The Obama hasn't made that statement, so it didn't matter.

    So are we to wait for The Obama to come in this here thread and tell us all what the problems are in our democracy?

    So what is there to discuss?
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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lightdemon View Post
    I've given you a problem...
    No... all you have done is equivocated, obfuscated and misdirected.
    In fact, you have done everying you can to -avoid- the issue.
    And I really dont have the time to waste on that.

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    Re: Obama: We're still working on our democracy

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    And yet, if you said such a thing, and made the claim you had improved the situation, you'd be able to provide examples of those problems, and the solutions you have implemented.


    Well, it IS The Obama we're discussing, so I am not surprised you think that.
    I would only be asked if it was a formal evaluation. In general conversation, no, I would not be asked. It would be accepted that we all do this. And I would take this silliness seriously even if we were talking abut Bush or Palin. It would still be silliness.

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