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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I'm not paranoid, I'm wise to the fact that these fixes don't change anything except make things more expensive for no reason.

    So what happens when I create a phony ID card with a false name, my fingerprint and bar code that matches?

    I just beat the system.
    I have seen the biometric ID cards of immigrants. You could not fake it and a scan of the barcode would reveal it as a fake or if was reported stolen.
    The national ID program would help solve the illegal immigration problem. That is the reason for them. It is a great Idea and they could be issued at DMV stations. That's where regular IDs are issued. Added cost would be minimal.
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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    But it's alot harder to create one like that. You need special equipment, and the knowledge to code the chip to validate it. So that cuts out lots of counterfeiting right there.
    So please explain how that will stop illegal immigrants who work under the table?

    This is supposed to be a stop for people using stolen information for employment.
    It isn't going to do anything and after the procedures for faking documents are normalized we are back at square one again.
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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    I have seen the biometric ID cards of immigrants. You could not fake it and a scan of the barcode would reveal it as a fake or if was reported stolen.
    The national ID program would help solve the illegal immigration problem. That is the reason for them. It is a great Idea and they could be issued at DMV stations. That's where regular IDs are issued. Added cost would be minimal.
    How does it stop those who work under the table and the employers that want those people?

    That is the majority of illegal workers that I have encountered.
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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    People need to be kept track of.
    No, they don't.

    Counted once every 10 years and that's it.

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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    Are they planning on installing RFID?
    From what I have heard they will be the same as what legal immigrants get. A picture ID with fingerprints and a bar code that can be scanned to verify the authenticity of the card. Kind of like the new passports. It is a good idea and might help solve our illegal immigration problem. I think most are making a bigger deal than it is, probably because Obama wants it.
    Where they planning national biometric cards when they implemented the social security system?

    If they were, they didn't tell the public.

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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That sounds a lot harder than making a fake social security card.
    It would be like faking the new $100 bills
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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    I'll lay out my cards for this whole proposed bill.

    I'm not against amnesty, those that want to become citizens will live to a similar American standard.
    They are just fine in my book.

    With that said, I am against a guest worker program.
    That is just a way for the government to subsidize businesses to allow them to go around the fair market value of local employment.
    Want to see low income people have their wages dropped, agree with this.

    I am against Real ID 2, it's unnecessary.
    There is no problem it addresses.
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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    I am against Real ID 2, it's unnecessary.
    There is no problem it addresses.
    You really believe that? IDs that are almost impossible to fake address many problems. Fake IDs are a huge problem in this country.
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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by USA-1 View Post
    You really believe that? IDs that are almost impossible to fake address many problems. Fake IDs are a huge problem in this country.
    For who?

    I almost never have to use mine, I don't even carry a wallet plus if they really want something to prove who I am, I can get a passport which is of higher authority than a standard ID.
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    Re: Obama & Co. Want National Biometric ID

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    For who?

    I almost never have to use mine, I don't even carry a wallet plus if they really want something to prove who I am, I can get a passport which is of higher authority than a standard ID.
    You don't drive?

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