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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    All extremely high medical bills raise the premiums for everyone. I, personally, oppose medical intervention for very low birth weight babies. I believe there should be a cutoff at some point. As technology has advanced, I think these hard choices become financially and ethically necessary.
    Do you oppose medical intervention for anyone else?


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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Do you oppose medical intervention for anyone else?
    Yes..........

    Do you?

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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    How are we not designed to?
    The fact that she had 19 kids is medical technology. First off, child birth is a rather dangerous procedure. Before modern science and technology, women died quite often while giving birth. Also, we're designed to have 1 kid at a time. While there are natural variants which can produce twins, typically it is a single child. Third, as the age of the person increases, most notably the mother but there are also aging affects with the father, the chances of various birth defects rises significantly. Human beings were not designed to have litters nor do we need to continually reproduce. Prey species have litters and constantly reproduce.

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    I don't think it's wrong to have that many kids if you're able to take care of them. We need more people like them in this world.
    I don't think we need more people like that. We don't need a population explosion. Our population is at replacement, and we have growth when we include immigration. That's enough. I don't see how having more of these people are beneficial in the least.
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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    They have money. I can't imagine them finding it ethical or moral to get government money.
    Are you kidding? I bet they get all sorts of money. First off, they have zero federal tax liability because every child you have, you can claim a deduction without reduction in that number till you hit zero. Don't think that this doesn't come back on society at all. As I said, I'm not going to say they can't. I just don't see what the big hoopla is about an f'd up family that can't figure out that it's no longer the 1700's.
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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not saying they can't do it. I'm saying it's f'd up to have that many kids and humans don't need to do that (in fact, we're not designed to), especially given the current environment that we enjoy.
    I saw one episode of their show. The mother said that having too many kids is like saying there's too many flowers.

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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    The mother said that having too many kids is like saying there's too many flowers.
    Tell that to someone with allergies. Heheh
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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    Yes..........

    Do you?
    I'm tempted to say that rapists, murderers, child molesters don't deserve medical treatment of any kind. I don't think I would be comfortable morally knowing, however, that someone died just because I said they couldn't have medical treatment. That seems wrong.

    Who else do you consider not worthy of medical treatment besdies underweight babies?


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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    All extremely high medical bills raise the premiums for everyone. I, personally, oppose medical intervention for very low birth weight babies. I believe there should be a cutoff at some point. As technology has advanced, I think these hard choices become financially and ethically necessary.
    Ummm, we advance medical technology so we don't have to make these choices financially and ethically necessary. Before such technology was available, yeah, we'd have to let "nature take it's course" with low birth weight babies. But technological advances in medicine means that we don't have to anymore and can use technology to help others. What's the point of developing technology if we're not allowed to use it?

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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    What's the point of developing technology if we're not allowed to use it?
    Spitefulness

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    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Duggar Baby Discharged From Hospital

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Just because it's not popular to have a large family anymore doesn't mean there's something inhuman about it.
    I was raised by strong proponents of the ZPG movement.
    Although I do not personally feel it necessary to the survival of the planet that individual couples adhere to some sort of self-imposed two-child maximum, there is something about the reproductive excess of the Duggars that strikes me as both selfish and immoral.

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