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We are a Christian Nation....

I never backtracked on anything. I think it's you who hasn't read the thread from the beginning.

'Christian Nation'- When the majority of the nation is Christian.

I get it. You're just mincing words. We are a nation whose majority of the population happens to be Christian. That is not how I or most people would define a Nation as being Christian. Most would define that as being a Nation where Christianity is the law of the land... and since we know it's not, this would be a false statement.

Good to see you defined your terms.
 
Then what sort of nation is it?

You are defining that the kind of nation that the US is in a very different way that most people would.
 
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Then why are there over 250,000 Christian churches in America?

You are defining that the kind of nation that the US is in a very different way that most people would.
 
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Then why are there over 250,000 Christian churches in America?
Majority of religion means nothing. Saddam Hussein ran a secular Iraq while his country was majority muslim. As for christmas it was not an official hoiliday until after the civil war. It seems our founding fathers didnt take christmas that seriously.
 
I've been showing evidence of a Christian America and i think it is YOU that should be proving other wise. You're the one that's in denial, not me.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is 76% of America Christian?

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is there over 250,000 Christian churches in America?

If this isn't a Christian nation then why has the US government always been dominated by Christians employees?

If this isn't a Christian nation then why were the founding fathers Christian?

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is it that you take advantage of the Christian holidays (Christmas)?

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That is not a Christian Nation, that is a nation with a lot of Christians in it.

There is an actual difference.

Are we a Right-Handed Nation?
 
I get it. You're just mincing words. We are a nation whose majority of the population happens to be Christian. That is not how I or most people would define a Nation as being Christian. Most would define that as being a Nation where Christianity is the law of the land... and since we know it's not, this would be a false statement.

Good to see you defined your terms.

We're either a land of Muslims or a land of Crusaders. There is no gray area between the two. This is a Crusading nation and the entire planet is well aware of this. Our military is nothing more than modern day Crusaders. Crusaders are Christians.

It is what it is...
 
I've been showing evidence of a Christian America and i think it is YOU that should be proving other wise. You're the one that's in denial, not me.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is 76% of America Christian?

Because of the law.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is there over 250,000 Christian churches in America?

Variation of the first question. Because of the law.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why has the US government always been dominated by Christians employees?

Because the probability curve that Christian employees will be public servants in a nation where a majority of the public are Christian is high.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why were the founding fathers Christian?

Some of them were Unitarians or deists.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is it that you take advantage of the Christian holidays (Christmas)?

I would say non-Christian Americans appropriate Christian holidays for their own purposes. For them, Christmas is time off and an opportunity to visit family and friends they wouldn't otherwise see.
 
We are a nation that was created by Christians and reflects Christian values. We aren't a Christian theocracy, but we are a Christian nation.
 
We're either a land of Muslims or a land of Crusaders. There is no gray area between the two. This is a Crusading nation and the entire planet is well aware of this. Our military is nothing more than modern day Crusaders. Crusaders are Christians.

It is what it is...

You are defining terms in a VERY narrow way. Not the way these terms are mostly used. It is called equivocation.
 
We are a nation that was created by Christians and reflects Christian values. We aren't a Christian theocracy, but we are a Christian nation.

We are a nation built on common sense values that are shared by many people, religious and non-religious. There is nothing in our creation as a country that is exclusively Christian.
 
We are a nation that was created by Christians and reflects Christian values. We aren't a Christian theocracy, but we are a Christian nation.

I have trouble saying our Randian-charged nation reflects Christian values.
 
We are a nation that was created by Christians and reflects Christian values. We aren't a Christian theocracy, but we are a Christian nation.

You too are defining terms in a VERY narrow way. We are a nation comprised by a Christian majority and by laws and values that are mostly based on Christian morality. In the way the terms are most often used, that does NOT translate into us being a Christian nation.
 
We're either a land of Muslims or a land of Crusaders. There is no gray area between the two. This is a Crusading nation and the entire planet is well aware of this. Our military is nothing more than modern day Crusaders. Crusaders are Christians.

It is what it is...

Whaaaattttt? :shock:

This isn't the Middle Ages or a video game. And contrary to your bizzare belief, I doubt most Americans are interested in going to war to spread Christian ideals.
 
The Freemasons are the most powerful organization in the world(whether you wanna believe it or not). And the Freemasons are dominated by Christians. All religions are welcome but it's a Christian organization, and you must believe in a God for membership. The Freemasons are also the most influential organization in America and have been since day one. Look around at all the government land marks in Washington, and tell me what you see. Christianity has always been ingrained in the US government. But at the same time America welcomes all religions, and that's the best part about this country.

True, the Freemason's are the most powerful organization in the world. Did you get that? The world. That takes in many religions, many cultures and many regions. Here in America it is safe to say that the majority of F&AM's are christians. But to be more clear, F&AM's do not endorse any religion over another. Not even here in the US. Also, to be a mason, you simply have to have belief in diety. One cannot profess to be "atheist" to become a masonic brother. Upon investigation, one simply has to say "no" when they ask the prospective apprentice if they are an atheist. They do not and will not ask what their beliefs are. The fraternity is religious in nature, perhaps, but it is not a religion. In general, F&AM's are typically "free thinkers." In fact, when F&M's invoke the blessing of diety before their important undertakings, the diety is always addressed as "The Great Architech of the Universe" and NOT as "God/Allah/Jesus/ <fill in your diety of choice here.>

You are correct when stating that the US was founded on masonic tenents. However, one of those tenents, as stated is, "harmony and strength is the support of all institutions. More especially of ours." That is why our forefathers went to great lengths to keep an arms length from religion when dealing with matters at hand. They went out of their way to make SURE everyone understood that we are not a nation founded on the principles of any religion over another.

That's all you get. :mrgreen:

So mote it be.

Captain America, MM

F&AM #142
 
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You too are defining terms in a VERY narrow way. We are a nation comprised by a Christian majority and by laws and values that are mostly based on Christian morality. In the way the terms are most often used, that does NOT translate into us being a Christian nation.

Our laws are not based on Christian values. They are based on Anglo-Saxon law which is an off shoot of Old Norse law which is the law of a Pagan culture. Our individualist brand of property rights and freedoms are all innovations of that pre-Christian civilization. These laws were, incidentily, relatively indifferent to Pagan religion and had more directly to do with the dynamics of power within communities.

According to how early Christian communities were governed, laws based on Christian values would be more like socialism.

After the introduction of Christianity, monarchs and assemblies of arisocrats and freemen modified Anglo-Saxon Law to reflect some Christian precepts; for example, they made it harder to get a divorce. Most of those modifications were later overturned, independently in both the United States and Great Britain.
 
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Whaaaattttt? :shock:

This isn't the Middle Ages or a video game. And contrary to your bizzare belief, I doubt most Americans are interested in going to war to spread Christian ideals.

It is true.

9/11 wasn't the first day we went to war with the Muslims.
 
I've been showing evidence of a Christian America and i think it is YOU that should be proving other wise. You're the one that's in denial, not me.

No, you've shown evidence that a majority of Americans are Christian. Where does it say that a majority of people being one religion makes the entire nation that religion?

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is 76% of America Christian?

Because a majority of Americans being Christian doesn't make it a Christian nation. It makes it a nation that has a majority of Christians.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is there over 250,000 Christian churches in America?

Where does it say that 250,000 churches makes this a Christian nation?

If this isn't a Christian nation then why has the US government always been dominated by Christians employees?

Again, how does that make this a Christian nation?

If this isn't a Christian nation then why were the founding fathers Christian?

Because the founding fathers gave us freedom of religion, which has nothing to do with Christianity.

If this isn't a Christian nation then why is it that you take advantage of the Christian holidays (Christmas)?

Oh come on! Christmas hasn't had a lot to do with Christianity for a long time. Who is the icon for Christmas? It certainly isn't Jesus. :lol:
 
It is true.

9/11 wasn't the first day we went to war with the Muslims.

We're not at war with the Muslims. That's a fallacy of your own making.
 
Then what sort of nation is it?

It's a secular nation because we allow all religions. If we only allowed Christianity I could see your point, but that obviously isn't the case.
 
I've been showing evidence of a Christian America and i think it is YOU that should be proving other wise. You're the one that's in denial, not me.



Because of the law.



Variation of the first question. Because of the law.



Because the probability curve that Christian employees will be public servants in a nation where a majority of the public are Christian is high.



Some of them were Unitarians or deists.



I would say non-Christian Americans appropriate Christian holidays for their own purposes. For them, Christmas is time off and an opportunity to visit family and friends they wouldn't otherwise see.

AKA> Christian Nation> Majority Rules>:thumbs:
 
It's a secular nation because we allow all religions. If we only allowed Christianity I could see your point, but that obviously isn't the case.

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

The foundation of this nation was built on Christianity!
 
Sorry, what part of the US is based on purely Christian values? :confused:

Dont get yourself confused between a Christian majority nation and a Christian Nation.
 
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