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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I'm constantly amazed at the people who still refuse to believe that the Founders were deeply religious. It's like they have either blocked out their speeches and writings from their memory, or they never learned them in the first place.
    You know what amazes me? That anybody cares what the founders thought. Just because they were pioneers doesn't mean we ought to follow them forever.
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

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    Avalon Project - The Barbary Treaties 1786-1816 - Treaty of Peace and Friendship, Signed at Tripoli November 4, 1796

    As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
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    Official records show that after President John Adams sent the treaty to the Senate for ratification in May 1797, the entire treaty was read aloud on the Senate floor, and copies were printed for every Senator. A committee considered the treaty and recommended ratification, 23 of the 32 sitting Senators were present for the June 7 vote which unanimously approved the ratification recommendation.
    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli]Treaty of Tripoli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

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    You can worship whatever you like but the backbone of America is Christian! I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. It's not the end of the world!
    That may be true. But it doesn't make this a "Christian nation". As a Christian myself, I find it rather arrogant and disrespectful to try to make tha claim.

    Why is it that those who scream the loudest about being "Christian" are those that generally live the least "Christ-like" lives?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I'm constantly amazed at the people who still refuse to believe that the Founders were deeply religious. It's like they have either blocked out their speeches and writings from their memory, or they never learned them in the first place.
    Yes...personally they were religious. That doesn't mean, however, that they were arrogant and felt the need to impose their beliefs on others. They had the wisdom and the foresight to make his a relgiously neutral country.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by LiveUninhibited View Post
    You know what amazes me? That anybody cares what the founders thought. Just because they were pioneers doesn't mean we ought to follow them forever.
    Nice. What exactly do you believe they were wrong about?


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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes...personally they were religious. That doesn't mean, however, that they were arrogant and felt the need to impose their beliefs on others. They had the wisdom and the foresight to make his a relgiously neutral country.
    Yet many states had state religions. Huh.


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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That may be true. But it doesn't make this a "Christian nation". As a Christian myself, I find it rather arrogant and disrespectful to try to make tha claim.

    Why is it that those who scream the loudest about being "Christian" are those that generally live the least "Christ-like" lives?
    I dunno, I'm not a Christian. Nor do i go to church.

    But i do have enough sense to know that our founding fathers were Orthodox. The proof is in their speeches.
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Nice. What exactly do you believe they were wrong about?
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

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    Most wanted to get rid of slavery.


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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    I'm constantly amazed at the people who still refuse to believe that the Founders were deeply religious. It's like they have either blocked out their speeches and writings from their memory, or they never learned them in the first place.
    Yes...personally they were religious. That doesn't mean, however, that they were arrogant and felt the need to impose their beliefs on others. They had the wisdom and the foresight to make his a relgiously neutral country.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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