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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Id say he has quite a bit of a bigger following than you and knows better
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    A nation where the official religion is Christianity.
    We're not talking about official religions. What religion was this country first built on?
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    No that's where you're wrong.

    Who prospered through commerce and trade and spawned the development of the new world through their Crusades? The Crusaders(The west)

    Who still lives in a backwards war stricken environment who's overlooked by Western military out posts. Muslims

    ...and the Crusades are still raging.
    The crusades had very little to do with that. Retaking the holy land was a failure that cost man lives. Who has all the oil? Oh Muslims. Who relies on it? Us. The new world wasnt spawned and developed by the crusades. You dont even have cursory knowledge of history.

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    We're not talking about official religions. What religion was this country first built on?
    NONE. It was built on ideals that didn't need religion to back them up. They were built on ideals shared by all of humanity, included Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Atheists, etc.

    This country was not built on a religion. Official documents like the Treaty of Tripoli back that up.

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    The crusades had very little to do with that. Retaking the holy land was a failure that cost man lives. Who has all the oil? Oh Muslims. Who relies on it? Us. The new world wasnt spawned and developed by the crusades. You dont even have cursory knowledge of history.
    You're delusional! Where is the West and where is the Middle east on prosperity?

    Of course they have most of the oil....and the crusaders walk in, establish "democracy" and govern the oil ourselves. It's a beautiful thing...
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    We're not talking about official religions. What religion was this country first built on?
    We are talking about terminology. What religion this country was first built on has already been agreed upon, but it is irrelevant to the definition of "Christian Nation".
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    For the sake of argument, if we were, in fact, a "christian nation" we would be obligated to uphold the judeo/christian law, "You shall have no other god's before me?" That's one of the Big 10. Would that not eliminate the very concept of religious freedom?
    For more insight regarding the concept of being religious in nature vs. not a religion, please see post #266. The intent of our forefathers was to be inclusive and accepting of all religious orders and seperate in matters concerning state.

    But, in the sense that most American citizens do follow various religious faiths based on the diety of Christ, by majority it would be feasible to look upon America as a "christian nation." It's semantics.

    Fact remains, that the US is, by design, a secular nation belonging to no particular faith of diety. The word God, is simply "God" because that is how His name is spoken in English. We are all free to intrepret and ponder our spirituality in any way we choose here in America as long as it is within the constraints of common law.

    I know a lot of people want to write in stone what America's "official" language is and what America's "official" religion is and what America's "official" news channel is, etc., but it's wayyyyy too late to do that.
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Moderator's Warning:
    We are a Christian Nation....This thread is NOT about the crusades or Islam. Stay on topic... I am getting a little annoyed at having to keep dropping warnings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    If I may, dear Cap-E-Taan,

    If Islam has any place at all on this thread, it would be to point out that the Muslim's believe, as I understand it, that any land that is conquered, or inhabited my people of the Muslim faith, must be forever claimed in the name of Allah/Islamic. That is much akin to those who profess that America must be claimed in the name of Christianity. Or, if you will, "a christian nation."

    Sometimes ya wonder how either ever learned to ride a camel.

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    You're delusional! Where is the West and where is the Middle east on prosperity?

    Of course they have most of the oil....and the crusaders walk in, establish "democracy" and govern the oil ourselves. It's a beautiful thing...
    Good god your idea of history is pathetic. The crusades had little to do with establishing democracy the crusades were carried out by Monarchies across Europe. Im starting to think youre a parody.

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