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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    When Obama Kisses the ass of the muslims in a foreign country and says this is not a Christian nation he needs to be stopped..........
    LOL...but you thought it was perfectly fine when your "Great and Inspired World Leader" was kissing up to the Bin Laden family and in bed with all his oil buddy Saudi's.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    78% are lost and need to be found.

    Honestly, have no problems with the thought of Jesus risiing from the dead as I do think stuff of a mystical nature like this can happen. What bothers me is the whole Virgin Mary and Son of God concept.
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    I guess I don't really get what the point of this thread is, other than to bait people. A majority of the people in this country are Christian. So what? It doesn't change the fact that this country allows freedom of religion and that many US citizens have many different non-Christian religions that are just as legitimate. To me, spiritual belief is a deeply personal thing. If you are so secure in your religious beliefs and take pride in them for yourself, why do you feel the need to arrogantly brag about it? I personally, don't think of this as very Christian-like behavior. Jesus was depicted in the Bible to be a very humble, kind and generous man. Do you honestly think, if he were alive today, that he would be engaging in what is essentially a "my religion's penis is bigger than your religion's penis" type of argument?
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    These aren't companies.

    Price fixing, market manipulation, unfair labor practices, lack of competition.
    Which is why I asked for more information.

    So you're in favor of the federal government telling private businesses how much they can sell their products for, how to market their product, how to hire/fire, what rules they have for their employees?

    Lack of competition....how would the federal government fix that?


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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by PonyBoy View Post
    Barry cant even figure out what color he is...
    Oh he is a very strong BLACK MAN! The First BLACK POTUS

    He knows it and so does the rest of this country which is why so many folks are all in a hate frenzy
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Which is why I asked for more information.

    So you're in favor of the federal government telling private businesses how much they can sell their products for, how to market their product, how to hire/fire, what rules they have for their employees?
    To a certain extent, yes. I'm not advocating total control. This isn't an all or nothing situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Lack of competition....how would the federal government fix that?
    Anti-Trust laws, outlaw monopolies.
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL...but you thought it was perfectly fine when your "Great and Inspired World Leader" was kissing up to the Bin Laden family and in bed with all his oil buddy Saudi's.
    The Bin laden family has nothing zero zilch to do with terrorism or Osama. Osama and his family parted ways right after the Gulf War. And the Bin Laden family were the ones that disclosed what they knew of him. The Bin Ladens are just a business family.
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    To a certain extent, yes. I'm not advocating total control. This isn't an all or nothing situation.
    Why not total control?


    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Anti-Trust laws, outlaw monopolies.
    Why outlaw monopolies? Why not let the people decide who stays in business and who doesn't?


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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Contrary to what many of our left wing friends believe:

    78% Think Jesus Christ Rose from the Dead

    78% Think Jesus Christ Rose from the Dead - Rasmussen Reports

    Today's the day Christians believe Jesus Christ was resurrected from the dead, and 78% of Americans share that belief.

    A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that just 10% don't believe Christ rose from the dead, and another 11% are not sure.
    1) Easter is not the day that Christ rose from the dead. It is the day that event is commonly celebrated.

    Of course, Christians celebrate the mortal death and later resurrection every day, so the need for Easter is rather irrelevant. Moreover, as is typical of the major Christian "holidays", the specific days selected have been corrupted over time by the Catholic Church... just as the Church piggy-backed on a long standing pagan celebration of the winter solstice to celebrate the birth of Christ (no one knows when he was actually born), Easter is rooted in a pagan celebration of fertility (hence eggs and bunnies). That said, at least the Resurrection is related to the passover.

    2) We are not a Christian nation as amendment #1 says so:

    "...Amendment 1 - Freedom of Religion, Press, Expression

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    3) So are we a nation of Christians?

    a) Well, just because 78% believe in the resurrection does not make 78% of the nation Christian. Satan knows Christ was the Son of God and knows of the Resurrection, that does not make Satan a Christian.

    b) If we are truly a nation of Christians the tone and temperament of our nation, in general, and political discourse, in particular would be vastly different then what we are seeing.

    c) There is much, much more to being Christian then merely believing Christ rose from the dead. There is the whole New Testament that tells you what being a Christian is. Very, very few have read it, even those in church.


    I submit that the number of Christians in this country is but a small subset of the 78%... hence, we are not even a nation of Christians

    Why do we want to be a Christian nation? Why do people obsess over this? Careful what you wish for! Our founders saw wisdom in the separation of the church and the state. Many of our (and their) fore fathers left religious persecution in Europe where affairs of church and state were commingled. The result was dysfunctional for the church and, to a lesser degree, the state. Religion gets to thrive in America because of this separation. Christians are the last people that should want a "Christian State"... There are over 3000 varieties of Christianity. The religion is more prolific than an amoeba in the way it divides and reproduces.

    I really don't understand why many of us think it desirable to call America a Christian nation. We (Christians) are not of this world. Leave the state out of our church and we will leave the church out of the state (which is different than Christians running for office and determining right and wrong based upon their moral compass).
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    Re: We are a Christian Nation....

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Why not total control?
    Do you really need me to explain that?


    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Why outlaw monopolies? Why not let the people decide who stays in business and who doesn't?
    Because monopolies game the system. Also, how can the people choose when there is only one option?
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