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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101
    The video clearly shows some of the men were armed. It's not the U.S. military's fault the insurgents were using children as a human shield. Despicable.


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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    On a seperate note:
    U.S. Admits Role in February Killing of Afghan Women - NYTimes.com
    KABUL, Afghanistan — After initially denying involvement or any cover-up in the deaths of three Afghan women during a badly bungled American Special Operations assault in February, the American-led military command in Kabul admitted late on Sunday that its forces had, in fact, killed the women during the nighttime raid.

    The admission immediately raised questions about what really happened during the Feb. 12 operation — and what falsehoods followed — including a new report that Special Operations forces dug bullets out of the bodies of the women to hide the true nature of their deaths.
    Now, this is my solution to all of those that feel guilty about what the warmongers of our USA our doing in all our names. Regular protesting does not work. The media easily counters most of the peoples voices. Legally and in a non terrorist way get all merchants to agree with you or be protested near and upon in compliance with all laws. The media can drown out everything in general. But nothing specific.

    All people who want peace to play the dominant role in America protest at one place at a time at first until the message grows. Everyone pick a place that makes money and protest outside their money making area until that place agrees to posting your view of the war. Mine happens to be stop all war are return all of our troops home. Restore people's voting power in America. (keep it legal and on sidewalks and all that. Anyone who brakes the law deserves to be arrested)

    If that place doesn't agree with your view and will not allow you to post signs you can agree with up then keep protesting. If it does then move on. Eventually all places that support the war will be protested upon. And all those that are against it will openly show their support.
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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    That was not a clean engagement. The group demonstrated no hostile intent and the ID of an RPG was clearly wrong.

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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Gander View Post
    That was not a clean engagement. The group demonstrated no hostile intent and the ID of an RPG was clearly wrong.
    That is exactly what I saw. It is also fairly clear to me that it was a camera. How could they have mistaken that for a gun??? I'm not sure why the American military felt the need to engage, at least from the footage that I have seen. Perhaps there is more to the story, I don't know. But that footage was chilling to the bone.
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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    That is exactly what I saw. It is also fairly clear to me that it was a camera. How could they have mistaken that for a gun??? I'm not sure why the American military felt the need to engage, at least from the footage that I have seen. Perhaps there is more to the story, I don't know. But that footage was chilling to the bone.
    I disagree when one of the Iraqis was at the corner of building it looked like the top part of a RPG to me. But aside from that it did seem shooting the van was overdone. You could even hear the soldiers wanting him to pick up a weapon so they could shoot him. That was probably the most chilling part to me.

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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    That video is disgusting, and I find it appalling that a number of folks on this thread are either okay with the murder of the innocent civilians or outright condoning it. I find it difficult to believe that the majority of folks are okay with actions like this, be they liberal or conservative.

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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    That is exactly what I saw. It is also fairly clear to me that it was a camera. How could they have mistaken that for a gun??? I'm not sure why the American military felt the need to engage, at least from the footage that I have seen. Perhaps there is more to the story, I don't know. But that footage was chilling to the bone.
    It was probably the result of adrenaline and instinct (training). I could see why they might mistake the cameras for some kind of weapon but certainly not an RPG.

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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Singularity View Post
    That video is disgusting, and I find it appalling that a number of folks on this thread are either okay with the murder of the innocent civilians or outright condoning it. I find it difficult to believe that the majority of folks are okay with actions like this, be they liberal or conservative.
    It's not that people are OK with it, it is that things like that are inevitable. Our military does tend to do all it absolutely can to minimize mistakes, but they will happen. From my watching, it looks like mistakes where clearly made, with tragic results. It's sad, but in war, these things do happen. It is impossible to describe the stress these young men are under, and knowing that mistakes the wrong way can result in their friends dying, well, you can understand why they tend to err towards tending to be overaggressive.
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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress
    It is impossible to describe the stress these young men are under
    Yes, I'm sure it was stress that was causing him to chuckle as he shot an innocent reporter to death.

    but in war
    This isn't a war; this is an occupation.
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    Re: Leaked footage from Apache showing "US military slaughter" in Baghdad

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Yes, I'm sure it was stress that was causing him to chuckle as he shot an innocent reporter to death.
    They are under great stress. I'm not sure how you can deny that.

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    This isn't a war; this is an occupation.
    Either way, it's warfare.

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