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    Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Two Generals and the Secretary of the Army speak against lifting the DADT ban:


    Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study - CNN.com


    Washington (CNN) -- As the Pentagon tries to move forward with studying the effects of repealing the ban on openly gay troops serving in the military, Defense Secretary Robert Gates is finding hurdles at almost every corner.
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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    I have a solution!

    Don't study it. Just repeal it.

    edit: Ooh, or maybe study one of the dozen or so other nations with homosexual troops already serving openly? *gasp* I know, dirty foreigners and all, but that JUST MIGHT BE USEFUL.
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    We have no reason not to believe him. [North Korean Dictator and Mass Murder Kim Jong-Un] has been very honest and accommodating.

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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I have a solution!

    Don't study it. Just repeal it.

    edit: Ooh, or maybe study one of the dozen or so other nations with homosexual troops already serving openly? *gasp* I know, dirty foreigners and all, but that JUST MIGHT BE USEFUL.
    Why don't you practice what you preach.....If your old enough enlist........I won"t hold my breath.......
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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Why don't you practice what you preach.....If your old enough enlist........I won"t hold my breath.......
    That doesn't make any sense. Why should I join an organization who I feel is acting in a discriminatory fashion? Practicing what I preach would be joining an organization that is trying to repeal these laws.
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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    That doesn't make any sense. Why should I join an organization who I feel is acting in a discriminatory fashion? Practicing what I preach would be joining an organization that is trying to repeal these laws.
    Well you could work to change it and then your opinion on the issue might be a little more creditable if you were willing to spend 90 days at sea with a gay crew.....Anyone can have a "Bleeding heart feel good opinion" when it does not affect them....No skin off your liberal ass.......Its a whole different matter when you have to walk in the shoes of the guys that actually have to face the problem.......
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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well you could work to change it and then your opinion on the issue might be a little more creditable if you were willing to spend 90 days at sea with a gay crew.....Anyone can have a "Bleeding heart feel good opinion" when it does not affect them....No skin off your liberal ass.......Its a whole different matter when you have to walk in the shoes of the guys that actually have to face the problem.......
    You think gay people are a "problem," got it. Other countries already do this, NP. They don't have issues with openly gay personnel. Are you suggesting that American sailors are uniquely incapable of getting along with each other?
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    We have no reason not to believe him. [North Korean Dictator and Mass Murder Kim Jong-Un] has been very honest and accommodating.

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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You think gay people are a "problem," got it. Other countries already do this, NP. They don't have issues with openly gay personnel. Are you suggesting that American sailors are uniquely incapable of getting along with each other?
    Other countries don't have militaries like ours...There militaries are like a regular job where you work for 8 hours and are home at night.......Our military is stationed all over the world.......There is a huge difference.......

    I notice you ignored my invitation.......Like I said that does not surprise me.......Its just like spending money.......You Liberals love to spend it on failed projects as long as it is not yours but the taxpayers......Like actually being in the Navy and actually spending your money its a whole new ball game...
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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Other countries don't have militaries like ours...There militaries are like a regular job where you work for 8 hours and are home at night.......Our military is stationed all over the world.......There is a huge difference.......

    I notice you ignored my invitation.......Like I said that does not surprise me.......Its just like spending money.......You Liberals love to spend it on failed projects as long as it is not yours but the taxpayers......Like actually being in the Navy and actually spending your money its a whole new ball game...
    As a Navy man I would have expected you to have a better picture of how our allies' operate their military, but I guess not. 8 hours and home at night, you really think we're the only ones who station troops outside our own soil? That's just laughable.

    Of course I ignored your invitation. I have no interest in signing my life away to prove a point to some old guy on the internet with a superiority complex. You're moving back to blanket statements about those dirty liberals rather than actually addressing anything related to the topic. Is that your idea of debate? Claim vague superiority on the subject and declare that nobody else has an opinion that counts? Two can play that:

    Military personnel can't possibly hold an unbiased opinion because it's a ruling that affects them. Only unbiased opinions should be paid attention to. Therefore, military personnel should have no say in DADT.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    We have no reason not to believe him. [North Korean Dictator and Mass Murder Kim Jong-Un] has been very honest and accommodating.

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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well you could work to change it and then your opinion on the issue might be a little more creditable if you were willing to spend 90 days at sea with a gay crew.....Anyone can have a "Bleeding heart feel good opinion" when it does not affect them....No skin off your liberal ass.......Its a whole different matter when you have to walk in the shoes of the guys that actually have to face the problem.......
    I have spent almost 10 months on a WestPac with women that we knew were gay, and it was not a problem at all NP. And, there were several men in my department who the entire department knew were gay, and no problems ever came up with the other guys due to their sexuality.

    Deuce is right, they should just repeal it and remove the rules against homosexuality. The vast majority of the military will not be affected by a repeal. They will simply continue to do their jobs because that is what we do. The ones who absolutely cannot handle the repeal will just get out, but I highly doubt that we will see some mass resigning and/or discharges or early retirements just from DADT getting repealed. Not in this economy. If someone is really basing their decision to get out of the military on just the fact that gays are allowed to serve openly, then they probably shouldn't be in anyway. And there are plenty of unemployed people who will be more than happy to take their place. Not to mention some of the people who have gotten out and now regret it, but can't get back in.
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    Re: Pentagon faces hurdles in 'don't ask, don't tell' study

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well you could work to change it and then your opinion on the issue might be a little more creditable if you were willing to spend 90 days at sea with a gay crew.....Anyone can have a "Bleeding heart feel good opinion" when it does not affect them....No skin off your liberal ass.......Its a whole different matter when you have to walk in the shoes of the guys that actually have to face the problem.......
    Bet the chow would be better and we'd have cleaner table linens.


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