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Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

This thread belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum with the rest of the nuts. We are getting the same old tried and true arguments that have been tried multiple times and proven false(hint: his trip was perfectly legal, fact check people), and the old "well I just don't believe him cuz, well, cuz I don't like him" argument. Watching Navy self destruct is kinda amusing, but that is about it.
 
Redress said:
This thread belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum with the rest of the nuts. We are getting the same old tried and true arguments that have been tried multiple times and proven false(hint: his trip was perfectly legal, fact check people), and the old "well I just don't believe him cuz, well, cuz I don't like him" argument. Watching Navy self destruct is kinda amusing, but that is about it.
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Who said anything about not likeing Obama? He is very charismatic. I wanted him to win. But, alas... Where there is smoke there is fire. The real question... Is the fire a real situation or a clever distraction?
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Who said anything about not likeing Obama? He is very charismatic. I wanted him to win. But, alas... Where there is smoke there is fire. The real question... Is the fire a real situation or a clever distraction?
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Are you the only one posting in this thread?
 
Navy Pride said:
First of all I am not the President, secondly I could give a **** less what you believe now if you doubt my service we can make a friendly wager of say $500. and send the money to Vauge to hold for us because we don't trust one another then to prove my service I will send a copy of my DD214 and a picture in my chief's uniform to Vauge........

If $500. isn't enough then we can make it any amount you like........

I will be waiting for you answer but I doubt you will take me up on it because you are and all talk and no action Liberal, typical..

Seems like you might be a Hatuey clone..........
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I'll take your bet, but only if we have a nice side bet of $1000 that Pres. Obama was in fact born in the United States. Guess you stand to earn an easy 1500 bucks right?

Also don't call me a liberal, I'm purely apolitical
 
Wiseone said:
I'll take your bet, but only if we have a nice side bet of $1000 that Pres. Obama was in fact born in the United States. Guess you stand to earn an easy 1500 bucks right?

Also don't call me a liberal, I'm purely apolitical
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I only bet on sure things.....sorry

So your not going to tak my bet? I was getting ready to give Vauge a heads up and mail the money..........Going on a cruise to Hawaii in a couple of weeks and could use the extra cash......
 
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Navy Pride said:
I only bet on sure things.....sorry

So your not going to tak my bet? I was getting ready to give Vauge a heads up and mail the money..........Going on a cruise to Hawaii in a couple of weeks and could use the extra cash......
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I have no doubt you served in the Navy, I was only merely how difficult it would be to actually prove it if we used the same standards of proof that have been applied to Obama's birthplace. The goal being to show that those standards are ridiculous, as many things such as your service history, could not be proven with held up to those standards.
 
Redress said:
This thread belongs in the Conspiracy Theory forum with the rest of the nuts. We are getting the same old tried and true arguments that have been tried multiple times and proven false(hint: his trip was perfectly legal, fact check people), and the old "well I just don't believe him cuz, well, cuz I don't like him" argument. Watching Navy self destruct is kinda amusing, but that is about it.
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Plus we outed Ockham as a conspiracy nut, and a creative one at that.
 
Wiseone said:
I'll take your bet, but only if we have a nice side bet of $1000 that Pres. Obama was in fact born in the United States. Guess you stand to earn an easy 1500 bucks right?
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You'll never win because he'll never accept proof. He'll move the goalposts to ridiculous extremes. He'll want video of Obama's birth, with notarized statements from 20 witnesses. No, 30 witnesses. No...
 
Wiseone said:
I have no doubt you served in the Navy, I was only merely how difficult it would be to actually prove it if we used the same standards of proof that have been applied to Obama's birthplace. The goal being to show that those standards are ridiculous, as many things such as your service history, could not be proven with held up to those standards.
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Its vey easy to prove I was in the military, not that easy to prove Obama was born in Hawaii....Even you must have a little doubt in your mind.......

You know what they say, where there is smoke there is fire...
 
Navy Pride said:
Its vey easy to prove I was in the military, not that easy to prove Obama was born in Hawaii....Even you must have a little doubt in your mind.......

You know what they say, where there is smoke there is fire...
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There might be doubt in my mind if there was any evidence he was not born in Hawaii. There is no such evidence, none at all.
 
misterman said:
You'll never win because he'll never accept proof. He'll move the goalposts to ridiculous extremes. He'll want video of Obama's birth, with notarized statements from 20 witnesses. No, 30 witnesses. No...
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Read my lips, no new taxes, no, I only bet on sure things like my PITTSBURGH STEELERS
 
Redress said:
There might be doubt in my mind if there was any evidence he was not born in Hawaii. There is no such evidence, none at all.
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So 100,000,000 milion people are wrong and you are right.........At least I admit I don't know.........
 
misterman said:
So I can see how he got the state of Hawaii, including a Republican governor, to go along with his forgery of his birth certificate. A few payoffs, maybe sending a few people to some FEMA death camps will accomplish that.

But how did he make thousands of copies of the newspaper with that fake birth announcment and sneak it into every library on earth, including microfilm? That had to take at least a week of careful planning. Very impressive.
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Ockham said:
I thought he should have provided a public viewing of his actual certificate when this whole thing started during the campaign. It would shut people up and diffuse the conspiracy nuts that were sure to get vocal. If he did that, there'd be no fuel for these people to run on. Come on now... conspiracy's are an American past time. I'm firmly of the belief that Obama consciously didn't share it in hopes to use the conspiracy nuts against his political enemies and to paint them with that broad brush.
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Nothing will ever satisfy the birthers. Period.

Catawba said:
Or......the use of a time machine to go back and have Obama's birth announcement printed in two Hawaiian newspapers.

Adds a little sci-fi intrigue to the story I think!
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Ohhhhhh...you beat me to it!

misterman said:
What exactly? A black guy with a Muslim middle name born overseas! Ah, a perfect candidate for president! We can't possibly find anyone better. :roll:
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I know huh? :rofl If "the powers that be" were that clever to plant evidence 48 years ago, why not pick someone more likely to win?

I thought I had read all the craziest theories already. There are some new ones in this thread. (New to me.)

  • Obama caused the controversy to make his opposition look stupid.
  • "Powers that be" found "the perfect" candidate when he was born in Kenya 48 years ago.

Bravo! Keep them coming, but I have to ask, why then did the opposition fall for Obama's sinister plan and continues play along?
 
Navy Pride said:
So 100,000,000 milion people are wrong and you are right.........At least I admit I don't know.........
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I do not have any belief that 100 million people think his birthplace is in doubt. You can of course show some evidence that this is true?
 
Navy Pride said:
Its vey easy to prove I was in the military, not that easy to prove Obama was born in Hawaii
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It's very easy. Like any citizen, he provides a birth certificate. It is final, legal proof, accepted by everyone for anything. Including for a presidential candidate.

..Even you must have a little doubt in your mind.......
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That's true, sometimes I do wonder if you really served in the Navy. You've told us two different stories about how long you served, and you once said you knew someone on a ship that doesn't exist. So I do wonder.
 
Navy Pride said:
So 100,000,000 milion people are wrong and you are right.........At least I admit I don't know.........
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So the most popular belief is the factually correct one, huh?
 
Gina said:
  • Obama caused the controversy to make his opposition look stupid.
  • "Powers that be" found "the perfect" candidate when he was born in Kenya 48 years ago.

Bravo! Keep them coming, but I have to ask, why then did the opposition fall for Obama's sinister plan and continues play along?
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Who said anything about people finding him 48 years ago you a-hole?
 
dirtpoorchris said:
Who said anything about people finding him 48 years ago you a-hole?
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Jeez, don't get sensitive. I thought that's what you meant too. You need to explain loony nutbag theories in detail - they can be confusing.
 
Redress said:
I do not have any belief that 100 million people think his birthplace is in doubt. You can of course show some evidence that this is true?
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How about you prpve there are not.........
 
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Navy Pride said:
How about you prpve there are not.........
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Because you are responsible for backing up your own arguments.

Watch:

100 million people think you are a clown. Prove it's not true.
 
Navy Pride said:
How about you prpve there are not.........
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You made the claim Navy. That means it's your responsibility to back it up. If I were to claim that 100 million people think 9/11 was Bush's fault, I would certainly expect people to call me on it and expect me to back up my claim.
 
Navy Pride said:
So 100,000,000 milion people are wrong and you are right.........At least I admit I don't know.........
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100,000,000 "milion" people think Obama was not born in Hawaii huh? :rofl:mrgreen:
 
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