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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Obama released his birth certificate to the public. A long time ago.



    Leaving aside the hilarious yet not surprising fact that you're talking like a birther (are you?), tough. This soldier has no constitutional or legal right to demand such documents. Period. I presume you agree with me on that though.
    The actual certificate was never released, only a facsimile, electronically, which is what fuels the people like this Lt. Col. from believing Obama's legitimacy. Soldiers have no requirements of Constitutionality nor does the average soldier (not sure about Lt. Colonels' though) put their daily lives through a Constitutional filter. You do what you're told and you trust in God and Uncle Sam. Rarely is there room to question as the penalty's even if you're right, are sometimes severe and no one gives a **** if you're right or not.

    He has a right to choose - do what he's doing or defy his commanders and go to court martial. He's chosen the latter. His basis is his own, but no, there's no legal basis in military law that I'm aware.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The actual certificate was never released, only a facsimile, electronically, which is what fuels the people like this Lt. Col. from believing Obama's legitimacy. Soldiers have no requirements of Constitutionality nor does the average soldier (not sure about Lt. Colonels' though) put their daily lives through a Constitutional filter. You do what you're told and you trust in God and Uncle Sam. Rarely is there room to question as the penalty's even if you're right, are sometimes severe and no one gives a **** if you're right or not.

    He has a right to choose - do what he's doing or defy his commanders and go to court martial. He's chosen the latter. His basis is his own, but no, there's no legal basis in military law that I'm aware.
    LOL So wait a second... you actually think that a president should just send out his paper version of his birth certificate to be handed about the public? Seriously?

    The only ones EVER released for ANY president are copies of the original. With good reason.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The actual certificate was never released, only a facsimile, electronically,
    So you expected them to, what, order several hundred thousand copies from the Stater of Hawaii and mail them to anyone who asked for it?

    They made it public on the internet. The state officials said it was legitimate. That's about all need be said (unless someone is going to come along and say the only proof is video of his birth, like they're saying with the teabaggers spitting on black congressmen).

    (BTW, they did let FactCheck.org see the actual paper document and examine it in detail).

    FactCheck.org: Born in the U.S.A.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    No matter how much the left defends this clown there is still something wrong with this whole situation....Barry, Barrack, Hussein Obama should come clean on this........My only problem is if they **** can this loser then we get Biden as prez......do we really want that?
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    No matter how much the left defends this clown there is still something wrong with this whole situation....Barry, Barrack, Hussein Obama should come clean on this........My only problem is if they **** can this loser then we get Biden as prez......do we really want that?
    Come clean on what? He has done what every president before him has done. Submitted a copy of his birth certificate. So what does he need to come clean on?

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Come clean on what? He has done what every president before him has done. Submitted a copy of his birth certificate. So what does he need to come clean on?
    Actually, he is probably the first ever to make public a copy of his birth certificate. It is not required by law or the Constitution, and he didn't (and didn't have to) submit it to anyone official. So he actually went out of his way to prove his birth. Didn't help of course, as the loons came out of the woodwork with their conspiracies.
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Come clean on what? He has done what every president before him has done. Submitted a copy of his birth certificate. So what does he need to come clean on?
    Why doesn't anyone believe this clown.....Is it because he is a liar.......Is it because he can sit in the Rev Wright's church for 20 years and never hear the hate spew from this so called Rev mouth?
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Actually, he is probably the first ever to make public a copy of his birth certificate. It is not required by law or the Constitution, and he didn't (and didn't have to) submit it to anyone official. So he actually went out of his way to prove his birth. Didn't help of course, as the loons came out of the woodwork with their conspiracies.
    A lot of people disagree with a prez but the birth place is not usually in doubt but when a president like Obama lies about everything it causes some doubt....
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    A lot of people disagree with a prez but the birth place is not usually in doubt but when a president like Obama lies about everything it causes some doubt....
    Maybe the lies you think he tells about other things aren't really lies either. Hmmm?

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Why doesn't anyone believe this clown.....Is it because he is a liar.......Is it because he can sit in the Rev Wright's church for 20 years and never hear the hate spew from this so called Rev mouth?
    I thought the topic was the birth cert. not Rev Wright?

    BTW NP alot of what you have had to say about gays could be construed as hateful.

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