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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    When are the Libbos going to get the picture? It's a soldier's right to ask those questions.

    But, instead, you all support persecuting anyone that dares question The Messiah.
    Messiah? Your heresy is ridiculous. Lakin disregarded a facially valid order and then complained about something that had nothing to do with his order. Again what the hell is a libbo? Stop butchering the english language.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Invalid orders. Not facially valid orders. They can question their commanders but where has there been precedence that someone like Lakin has a right to have his issues addressed by the president?


    You do know the difference between orders and authority to issue those orders, don't you?

    You don't get it apdst that's why he's being court martialed
    The court martial won't stick.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Messiah? Your heresy is ridiculous. Lakin disregarded a facially valid order and then complained about something that had nothing to do with his order. Again what the hell is a libbo? Stop butchering the english language.
    Come up with some factual information, vice insults and personal attacks.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, never once addressed by their commander. If Obama had any honor, he would address it himself, rather than letting lawyers and judges run interfearance for him.
    It has already been addressed many times over. You still have shown no precedence giving him the right to address the president. His orders were given by his direct commanders. Obama has addressed the birth certificate issue more than he even should have.



    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They deserted because of their cowardice, not their concern about their commander's legitimate authority. Big difference.
    No using their commander's legitimacy is an excuse. We both know damned well that if McCain was president these guys wouldn't have pulled this ****, even though McCain had perceived greater issues.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Come up with some factual information, vice insults and personal attacks.
    Personal attacks? I haven't made a personal attack. You, on the other hand, have. You haven't posted any factual information thus far.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You do know the difference between orders and authority to issue those orders, don't you?
    You do know regardless of if Obama was legitimate or not the orders are still valid with the proper authority don't you? The orders came directly from Lakin's superiors. Lakin's issue is with them not the president.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The court martial won't stick.
    We shall see

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    So that now that the colonel is formally charged, does any body think he's going to win? No? I rather think he's going to be spending time, a long time contemplating his decisions in a cell.
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    It has already been addressed many times over. You still have shown no precedence giving him the right to address the president. His orders were given by his direct commanders. Obama has addressed the birth certificate issue more than he even should have.
    I've already showed you where the UCMJ gives soldiers the right to have their grievances addressed by their commander. A soldier can even petition Congress to do so. No where does it say that gievances can't be brought against the President.





    No using their commander's legitimacy is an excuse. We both know damned well that if McCain was president these guys wouldn't have pulled this ****, even though McCain had perceived greater issues.
    Because their's no question about McCain's legitimacy...

    But, now we see what you're really mad about...
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    So that now that the colonel is formally charged, does any body think he's going to win? No? I rather think he's going to be spending time, a long time contemplating his decisions in a cell.
    It ain't gonna happen.
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    You do know regardless of if Obama was legitimate or not the orders are still valid with the proper authority don't you? The orders came directly from Lakin's superiors. Lakin's issue is with them not the president.
    And, you do know, from all your military experience, that if Obama was deemed illigitimate, news orders would have to be issued, voiding the old orders, thereby making the old orders illegal. Don't you?

    Weren't you in the service? You should know how the system works. Lakin's immediate commander didn't write the marching orders for his unit. The DoD did...signed off by the President i.e. The Commander in Chief.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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