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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Good thing you never stoop to insults...

    The topic is a birther nut Navy, not other posters. Do try and stay on topic.
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    we can always hope that the oaths that they took will at some point mean something, and a Judge will find the balls to do the right thing....... hear the case on it's merits, and judge the case only on it's merits without prejudice. That hasn’t happened yet.
    So step away from the message board, find that judge, and file your awesome, sure-fire case.

    And oh yeah, POIDH!

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    So step away from the message board, find that judge, and file your awesome, sure-fire case.

    And oh yeah, POIDH!
    Step up to your keyboard and fulfill your side of the bargain, then I'll file....... or we can wait and see what happens in kerchner vs obama.
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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Good thing you never stoop to insults...

    The topic is a birther nut Navy, not other posters. Do try and stay on topic.
    Of course you don"t have a problem with him/her attacking me.....HYPOCRITE!!!!!
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Moderator's Warning:
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    Thank you........ back on topic.

    March 30, 2010

    The Honorable Barack Obama
    President of the United States of America
    1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
    Washington, D.C. 20500

    Dear Mr. President:

    For more than seventeen years, I have had the privilege of serving my country as a member of the U.S. Armed Forces, including overseas assignments in imminent danger/combat areas in Bosnia and Afghanistan.

    The United States is an example to the rest of the world of a stable, civilized democratic government where all men are created equal and the rule of law is cherished and obeyed. The U.S. military teaches and promotes the rule of law and civilian control of the military to many other nations and militaries around the world. Every soldier learns what constitutes a lawful order and is encouraged to stand up and object to unlawful orders. My officer's oath of office requires that I swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    I recently received deployment orders for a second deployment to Afghanistan. My orders included a requirement to bring copies of my birth certificate. I will provide a certified copy of my original birth certificate with common, standard identifiers, including the name of an attending physician and a hospital. Every day in transactions across the country, American citizens are required to prove their identity, and standards for identification have become even stricter since the terrorist attacks on 9/11.

    Since the fall of 2008, I have been troubled by reports that your original birth certificate remains concealed from public view along with many other records which, if released, would quickly end questions surrounding your place of birth and "natural born" status. Many people mistake the online Certification of Live Birth for an original birth certificate. Until the summer of 2009, the Hawaiian Department of Homelands would not accept this Certification of Live Birth to determine native Hawaiian identity--the Department insisted upon also reviewing an original birth certificate. Many do not understand that the online document was from 2007, generated by computer, laser-printed, and merely a certification that there is an original birth certificate on file which may or may not be sufficiently probative. An original birth certificate is the underlying document that presumably includes a hospital and attending physician's or midwife's name that should lay to rest the "natural born" dispute.

    In 2008, after pressure from the news media, Senator McCain produced an original birth certificate from the Panama Canal Zone; a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing examined and affirmed his "natural born" status and Constitutional eligibility to serve as President. The U.S. Senate was silent about your eligibility, despite statements from Kenyan citizens that you were born in Mombasa, including your paternal grandmother and the Ambassador from Kenya to the U.S. during a radio interview. Hawaiian state officials claim they cannot release an original birth certificate without your consent.

    I have attempted through my chain of command for many months to get answers to the questions surrounding your eligibility. I also sought answers, unsuccessfully, through my Congressional delegation. You serve as my Commander-in-Chief. Given the fact that the certification that your campaign posted online was not a document that the Hawaiian Department of Homelands regarded as a sufficient substitute for the original birth certificate and given that it has been your personal decision that has prevented the Hawaiian Department of Health from releasing your original birth certificate or any Hawaiian hospital from releasing your records, the burden of proof must rest with you.

    Please assure the American people that you are indeed constitutionally eligible to serve as Commander-in-Chief and thereby may lawfully direct service members into harm's way. I will be proud to deploy to Afghanistan to further serve my country and my fellow soldiers, but I should only do so with the knowledge that this important provision of our Constitution is respected and obeyed. The people that continue to risk their lives and give the ultimate sacrifice to the service of our country deserve to know they do so upholding their vows to the oath of office and the Constitution.

    Unless it is established (by this sufficient proof that should be easily within your power to provide) that you are constitutionally eligible to serve as President and my Commander-in-Chief, I, and all other military officers may be following illegal orders. Therefore, sir, until an original birth certificate is brought forward that validates your eligibility and puts to rest the other reasonable questions surrounding your unproven eligibility; I cannot in good conscience obey ANY military orders.

    Respectfully,

    // Terry Lakin
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    Sounds to me like a man that takes his oath of office as a serious matter.
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    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Will the truth finally come out! Will Obama be exposed as a Kenyan Muslim Terrorist who personally use to hang out with Karl Marx. TUNE IN NEXT WEEK FOR THE EXCITING CONCLUSION!
    All that's been proven. The birfers just want PBO to cough an actual birth certificate.
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Thank you........ back on topic.



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    Sounds to me like a man that takes his oath of office as a serious matter.
    Not serious enough to follow facially valid orders

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Step up to your keyboard and fulfill your side of the bargain, then I'll file....... or we can wait and see what happens in kerchner vs obama.
    FYI everyone - Kerchner was dismissed and is on appeal.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    All that's been proven. The birfers just want PBO to cough an actual birth certificate.
    Which is not legally required, and was done anyway long ago.

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