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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    That was the deal Glinda agreed to, until I wanted proof that she would pay..... then it's been nothing but chicken crap from her and PM.
    That makes no sense. Why would you want her to pay his bills? That's silly. It's a copout on your part.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    This is the revised version of that speach taken from Barry's Facebook page..... 5th paragraph from bottom.



    Obama Pride: Michelle Obama: "He has never stopped pursuing that better wor... | Facebook

    Anyone notice what's missing?
    I know! A tattoo of the U.S. flag on his forehead! Only that would prove he's an American. Damn foreigner.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Hows that legal challenge you claimed you were going to file coming along Crunch?
    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Another of your lies...... gullible Faither.
    EDIT: Try telling that to Glinda.
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    That makes no sense. Why would you want her to pay his bills? That's silly. It's a copout on your part.
    Of course it is.

    Why this guy would allow some anonymous person on the internet to be the foil for his master plan of suing the President and sending him back to Kenya (or wherever the **** Crunch thinks Obama came from) is beyond comprehension.

    But that's what he's going with. I'm the reason he won't file his brilliant, sure-fire lawsuit.

    It's freakin' laughable.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Let's put this entire birth certificate issue to rest here and now, shall we, with some common sense questions.

    We already know that Hawaii has atleast 3 different means bywhich a person's birth can be legally registered:

    1. Birth within the state.

    2. Birth within 1 year within the state but properly registered by one of the parents.

    3. Birth within 1 year outside of the state, but still properly registered by one of the parents.

    In all cases except the last, the birth certificate/certificate of live birth would clearly indicate where the child was born and to whom. If memory serves me correctly, in the case of #2 and #3, the birth cert would indicate that the birth of the child was unusual, i.e., late registration or an out of state birth (Place of birth). Neither are the case with Pres. Obama's birth cert/cert. of live birth. This has been something that has been discussed before, but I wanted to bring it up again to try and put this matter to rest once again.

    Now, to the crust of the situation...

    Let's be real here, folks. If Pres. Obama's birth records were false - that is to say, if he truly was NOT born in Hawaii or anywhere in the U.S., don't you think this information would have come out by now? There are just TOO many people who touch birth records on a daily basis at county health departments for someone NOT to put real evidence that goes contrary to legitimacy for his legal birth not to be disproven at this point. Birthers...truthers...you dance around the issue of the President's birth, but you forget about the obvious. How difficult would it be for...

    A. Someone within the Hawaii Department of Public Health to just pull his records, make copies and present them to the local media?

    B. Someone at the local hospital where the President was born to do same?

    C. For an upset relative - you know the ones...Obama's half-brother who's not receiving money from the President, or his half-sister, or even his aunt who ran into deportation issues (is she even still in the country?) -- people who actually have a "tangible interest" in the President's birth records because they are "family" - to request a copy of his records and then have them published through the media?

    I mean, all one would have to do is get TMZ or the National Equirer to pay someone to pull his records if they were in fact false! (And mind you, I am NOT advocating or encouraging anyone to pay a bribe for any reason whatsoever. I'm just stating how easy it would be for the birthers/truthers to get the evidence they'd need to prove their case.)

    Birthers...truthers...or whatever you call yourselves these days, WAKE UP! It's too damned easy to discredit the man's birth assuming that his birth records are, in fact, a fraud! But here again I challenge any and everyone who honestly believes the man was born outside the U.S. or even inside but that his mother gave birth to him at age 14 and not 16 or older to provide that prima facia evidence. Provide proof of your claim and let's been done with this non-sense once and for all. Because just as the natural-born citizen argument has been smashed to bits, so should this absurdity!

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It would not be the first time a birth certificate was forged......If it was that easy to get his BC then why do millions of people question it?
    Huh...because they're stupid? Just a thought...

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The actual certificate was never released, only a facsimile, electronically, which is what fuels the people like this Lt. Col. from believing Obama's legitimacy.
    I doubt you were implying that the Pres. should release his actually birth cert. so that any and EVERYONE who doubts the legitimacy of his birth can touch, feel and see the document for him/herself. Because that would be IMPOSSIBLE!

    IMO, the right people who needed to see his birth certificate has seen it. Not you, or me or anyone else who have no true legal basis for seeing it. The Illinois Senate, the U.S. Senate, the Democratic National Convention and any other entity that is required to certify a presidential candidates creditials have all seen and signed off on whatever it is they needed to see and sign off on. This process of vetting a candiate has gone on for so long...it's not like the process just started right before Obama won the election. Geezzz! (And again, that wasn't necessarily meant for you; just the idiots out there who continue to bring up this issue.)

    I think Pres. Obama did the one and only thing he could do in an attempt to stop all the inquires, only it added fuel to the fire. Now, what I would have done when he did hold a press conference on this matter soon after he was elected was to show a copy of his birth cert. right then and there. But I can understand why he didn't; it wouldn't have changed anything. Many people still wouldn't have believed that what he held up was legit. To some, it would never have proven a thing.

    So, again, I say to the birthers/truthers, go get your evidence and prove the man ineligible to serve. It should be as easy as...well, you know...have seed money, will get you what you want.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    This guy is a Lt. Colonel? Is this indicative of the caliber of intelligence in our military these days. Not only is this guy, in rivrrat's words, an "idiot" for questioning what has already been produced but, he likely is throwing away his career and possibly pension. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

    I just hope this fool doesn't have the authority to send troops into harm's way.
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADK_Forever View Post
    This guy is a Lt. Colonel? Is this indicative of the caliber of intelligence in our military these days. Not only is this guy, in rivrrat's words, an "idiot" for questioning what has already been produced but, he likely is throwing away his career and possibly pension. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

    I just hope this fool doesn't have the authority to send troops into harm's way.
    He's a doctor..... he fixes people....... his orders will be rescinded just like the last two that refused to be sent (that keeps Barry's records from being subpoenaed in discovery).

    He isn't the first, and he won't be the last.

    What will they do if they have a war, and nobody comes?
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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    He's a doctor..... he fixes people....... his orders will be rescinded just like the last two that refused to be sent (that keeps Barry's records from being subpoenaed in discovery).

    He isn't the first, and he won't be the last.

    What will they do if they have a war, and nobody comes?
    I only found info on one of the alleged two (Stefan Cook). His orders were rescinded because he was a reservist who had volunteered, he had the right to change his mind, and did. He made that decision, not the military. And his court case proceeded, it wasn't cancelled. It was...dismissed.

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