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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    They did. The document was verified.
    By the daily KOS? Factcheck.org? You aren't being serious are you?

    Please link what proper authority verified the document posted on the internet was a real document that truly reflected Barry's situation at birth........ go ahead, the world wants to know.

    BTW...... that little disclaimer on the botton of the COLB? It says right there in black and white, that document is only good in court to prove birth..... that's it, and the reason it says "prima facie evidence" is so that the court can call for the real documents that would back up the information alleged on the COLB.

    For some real interesting reading, try HRS 338-18 (B), and 338-19...... you will find that the COLB is for, among other things, out of State births.

    You gullible Faithers really crack me up.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Oh good lord...

    You mean like the director of Hawaii’s Department of Health?

    How about the registrar of vital statistics?
    How about the AG of Hawaii?

    ATTORNEY GENERAL MARK BENNETT’S OFFICE SAYS THEY HAVE “NO GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS PERTAINING TO THE PREPARATION OF THE PUBLIC STATEMENTS MADE BY DR. FUKINO”
    HI AG denies having information supporting Department of Health claim | The Post & Email

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    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    By the daily KOS? Factcheck.org? You aren't being serious are you?

    Please link what proper authority verified the document posted on the internet was a real document that truly reflected Barry's situation at birth........ go ahead, the world wants to know.

    BTW...... that little disclaimer on the botton of the COLB? It says right there in black and white, that document is only good in court to prove birth..... that's it, and the reason it says "prima facie evidence" is so that the court can call for the real documents that would back up the information alleged on the COLB.

    For some real interesting reading, try HRS 338-18 (B), and 338-19...... you will find that the COLB is for, among other things, out of State births.

    You gullible Faithers really crack me up.

    Ahh crazy crunch back your old games. Prima facie translated means self evident. Prima facie evidence is something that is self evident in the facts. This document holds up as proof of birth in the state of hawaii within the united states. It is on you to present prima facie evidence that states otherwise. This document isnt only good in court its good for getting a passport, ID, licenses, etc. Again Crunch the facts are not on your side.

    According to the rules an out of state birth would not have the city of birth as Honolulu, Hawaii on it.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    You cant read can you? The letter from Bennett's subordinate defers to the department of health which keeps vital records. The document states that the attorney general does not keep those records and therefore cannot comment on nor release them. Nice misread birther.
    Last edited by PogueMoran; 04-07-10 at 04:08 PM.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    By the daily KOS? Factcheck.org? You aren't being serious are you?
    By the director of records for the state of Hawaii.

    BTW...... that little disclaimer on the botton of the COLB? It says right there in black and white, that document is only good in court to prove birth..... that's it, and the reason it says "prima facie evidence" is so that the court can call for the real documents that would back up the information alleged on the COLB.
    LOL!

    Really? You think that's what "prima facie evidence" means? Hint - no, it doesn't. It means the opposite.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    You cant read can you? The letter from Bennett's subordinate defers to the department of health which keeps vital records. The document states that the attorney general does not keep those records and therefore cannot comment on nor release them. Nice misread birther.
    No surprise there.

    The dog-catcher also refused to comment on the birth certificate. What is he hiding?

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    You cant read can you? The letter from Bennett's subordinate defers to the department of health which keeps vital records. The document states that the attorney general does not keep those records and therefore cannot comment on nor release them. Nice misread birther.
    Nice skipping of the facts in the article gullible Faither....

    …Ms. Okubo,

    I am currently a masters degree candidate at …

    The reason that I am contacting your organizations is that you are, as far as I can tell from my research, the only two groups that have openly stated that President Obama is a natural born citizen (one of the Article II, Section I qualifications for being President). I would like to document how you came to that conclusion: i.e. what the criteria is for your organization, what evidence the candidate provides, etc. I thank you for your time, and look forward to receiving a response in the near future.

    Sincerely,

    Justin W. Riggs

    Janice Okubo responded later that day:

    From: Okubo, Janice S.. <janice.okubo@doh.hawaii.gov>
    Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:20 PM
    To: Justin Riggs [email address redacted]…

    Aloha Justin,

    The statement was reviewed and approved by our Attorney General Mark Bennett. I am unable to provide further comment.

    Janice Okubo
    Communications Office
    Hawaii State Department of Health…
    I don't know why I bother with a guy that I've caught in numerous lies...... don't expect me to continue. Just like you should not believe a proven liar like Janice Okubo or Dr. Chiyome Fukino.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    He said he has no information about it.

    Only a conspiracy theorist would turn "nothing" into something.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    He said he has no information about it.

    Only a conspiracy theorist would turn "nothing" into something.
    But Janice Okubo says he approved the statement... so which is it? Who is lying?
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Army 'showdown' at eligibility corral. Lt. Col. asks for birth cert.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Nice skipping of the facts in the article gullible Faither....



    I don't know why I bother with a guy that I've caught in numerous lies...... don't expect me to continue. Just like you should not believe a proven liar like Janice Okubo or Dr. Chiyome Fukino.
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read. The article is based on the letter from Bennet's office which stated what I said. Okubo nor Fukino have not been proven as liars. You, however, have been as shown by your misstating what Bennett's office said.

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