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Congressman Caught on Video: I dont care about the Constitution

The Giant Noodle

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This is a the 'money' shot. Phil Hare says he does care about the Constitution. You know..... the one that they SWORE to uphold. :doh:roll:



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This more gottcha efforts that doesn't seek to understand but to make something into something it isn't.


Look..... he even got the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution mixed up!!!! Then he LIED about reading the whole bill!!!!!!!!!

THEN he said he does CARE about the Constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!! :soap

Look man.... this is his JOB!!!!!!! To defend the Constitution!!!!!!!!
ANd he doesnt even CARE.... he even gets major doccuments mixed up. He doesnt know WHAT the Constitution says! :soap

****ing guy should be fired!!!!!!!!!! :soap
 
"I don't worry about the constitution"

Great quoting skills there genius. Also, he could have just said "Article 1 Section 8" and he would have answered the question, because the Health Care bill is justified in that section.
 
Look..... he even got the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution mixed up!!!! Then he LIED about reading the whole bill!!!!!!!!!

THEN he said he does CARE about the Constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!! :soap

Look man.... this is his JOB!!!!!!! To defend the Constitution!!!!!!!!
ANd he doesnt even CARE.... he even gets major doccuments mixed up. He doesnt know WHAT the Constitution says! :soap

****ing guy should be fired!!!!!!!!!! :soap

You don't really know that he lied, and that was hardly a prepared situation. He was trying to make a point and was consistently interrupted by poor behaving individuals who didn't want to actually understand. This is more silliness and little more.
 
was he mocking bush?
 
"I don't worry about the constitution"

Great quoting skills there genius. Also, he could have just said "Article 1 Section 8" and he would have answered the question, because the Health Care bill is justified in that section.

Simple symantecs man. Now regarding the section you quoted:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

You may very well have a point.
 
Wow... That congressman sux at being a congressman. I betcha a random lottery to determine government would end up being more effective than the crap we have now. They might as well have Elmer Fud for congress. It is hard to watch the whole vid and think that this congressman is going to keep his job. He couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
 
You don't really know that he lied, and that was hardly a prepared situation. He was trying to make a point and was consistently interrupted by poor behaving individuals who didn't want to actually understand. This is more silliness and little more.

The guy was just giving salesman like points. Nothing else. He even said a number.. what was it. 30 mil that would be covered? Then he said his goal in this is to bring insurance to every American. Isn't there 300 mil + Americans? Dude is a wanna be verbal prestidigitator.
 
"I don't worry about the constitution"
Great quoting skills there genius. Also, he could have just said "Article 1 Section 8" and he would have answered the question, because the Health Care bill is justified in that section.

Where is the Health Care Bill mentioned?

Article I

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof
 
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The guy was just giving salesman like points. Nothing else. He even said a number.. what was it. 30 mil that would be covered? Then he said his goal in this is to bring insurance to every American. Isn't there 300 mil + Americans? Dude is a wanna be verbal prestidigitator.

30 million more. Again, do we listen to understand, or to play gottcha games?
 
Simple symantecs man. Now regarding the section you quoted:



You may very well have a point.

What, the "welfare clause"?

Well, geee........ does that mean food too? Can't have general welfare without food.

How about a roof over every head?..... can't have general welfare without a roof, and 4 walls of course.

And power... got to have power.

And something to cook it on, and don't forget we need to be able to store that food too.

And how are we to get that food to our house without a car?... and gas, got to have gas too.

And walk around money..... you can't expect me to sit around all day just staring at these 4 walls.

That "Welfare clause"?

[/sarcasm]
:roll:
 
He said "I don't worry[/B about the constitution here."

As in, "I don't expect any serious constitutional challenge."

Because the bill is not unconstitutional.

And conservatives who point to article I section 8 need to tell me how the fire department is constitutional but health insurance is not.
 
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What exactly in the Constitution prevents Health care?

Well, you would think the Commerce Clause + the 10th Amendment. But maybe I'm just one of those crazy white guys that still believes that the Founders intended for a limited government and would have been pissed had someone suggested their work would lead to a national government requiring the purchase of a private good/service as a condition of citizenship...

But I'm just another white racist, right?
 
Well, you would think the Commerce Clause + the 10th Amendment. But maybe I'm just one of those crazy white guys that still believes that the Founders intended for a limited government and would have been pissed had someone suggested their work would lead to a national government requiring the purchase of a private good/service as a condition of citizenship...

But I'm just another white racist, right?

Or like the purchase of territory without Congress, the establishment of a Central bank, creation of central currency, Alien and sedition act.....

The 10th Amendment? Can you elaborate on that?
 
Wow... That congressman sux at being a congressman. I betcha a random lottery to determine government would end up being more effective than the crap we have now. They might as well have Elmer Fud for congress. It is hard to watch the whole vid and think that this congressman is going to keep his job. He couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag.

I think it's more like he sucks at thinking on his feet when he's being thoroughly antagonized.

Most of us are like that.

That said, I'm a fan of the lottery idea.
 
Or like the purchase of territory without Congress, the establishment of a Central bank, creation of central currency, Alien and sedition act.....

The 10th Amendment? Can you elaborate on that?

The 10th Amendment? Ain't that the one which reads:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

I see the power to regulate interstate commerce belonging to the national government. I don't see the power to regulate intrastate commerce being delegated to the national government. Hence, this power is reserved to the States.

Also, I see nothing in the Constitution enumerating an authority to require, as a condition of citizenship, the purchase of a private good/service.

I don't think this is a very sophisticated argument. It kinda just, well, jumps out at you as you consider the constitutionality of this kind of legislation.
 
But maybe I'm just one of those crazy white guys that still believes that the Founders intended for a limited government and would have been pissed had someone suggested their work would lead to a national government requiring the purchase of a private good/service as a condition of citizenship...

But I'm just another white racist, right?

I also don't think the Founders intended corporations that exist perpetually, fiat currency, gun registration laws, nuclear weapons, "force projection," a "war on" whatever, the PATRIOT act, or for basic health care to be so expensive you have to pay someone to pay for it for you, but hey.

That's the world we live in.
 
The 10th Amendment? Ain't that the one which reads:
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Reserved to the States, or the people who are represented by the federal Congress.

I see the power to regulate interstate commerce belonging to the national government. I don't see the power to regulate intrastate commerce being delegated to the national government. Hence, this power is reserved to the States.

And the people again who are represented by the Congress.

Also, I see nothing in the Constitution enumerating an authority to require, as a condition of citizenship, the purchase of a private good/service.
Your citizenship wont be revoked for not getting insured. You will simply pay your share of the taxes to compensate for the cost of treating you anyways.
 
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