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    Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

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    FOXNews.com - Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admitting They Are Gay

    1 April 2010

    Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admitting They Are Gay


    Reversing course, Army Secretary John McHugh warned soldiers Thursday that they still can be discharged for admitting they are gay, saying he misspoke earlier this week when he suggested the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy had been temporarily suspended.
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    Re: Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

    Yes, the rule has not been officially repealed. This isn't a surprise to anyone.

    By the way, when was the last time you changed your signature? You're like those guys in 2008 who still had Bush/Cheney bumper stickers on their cars.
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    Re: Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

    That's not even what that article you posted is about. Did you read past the headline.

    The point of the article is that the army secretary had told gays that he wanted to hear from them about ways they would suggest that could help facilitate the lifting of the ban.
    He later realized that asking for input would violate the DADT policy and so he retracted his statement to ensure that people wouldn't rely on his mistake.

    Talk about dishonesty in trying to spin this into something it isn't even about.
    You MIGHT want to read the article before posting....in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, the rule has not been officially repealed. This isn't a surprise to anyone.

    By the way, when was the last time you changed your signature? You're like those guys in 2008 who still had Bush/Cheney bumper stickers on their cars.
    I know your young and all but its called a law not a rule.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That's not even what that article you posted is about. Did you read past the headline.

    The point of the article is that the army secretary had told gays that he wanted to hear from them about ways they would suggest that could help facilitate the lifting of the ban.
    He later realized that asking for input would violate the DADT policy and so he retracted his statement to ensure that people wouldn't rely on his mistake.

    Talk about dishonesty in trying to spin this into something it isn't even about.
    You MIGHT want to read the article before posting....in the future.

    Here is the headline: Its pretty clear........

    Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admitting They Are Gay
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    Re: Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Here is the headline: Its pretty clear........

    Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admitting They Are Gay
    Its obvious that that is all you read. You posted a link that is completely unrelated to what you are trying to argue.
    You are notorious for doing this. You could avoid it, if you read more than the headline. Like I said...it is obvious in this case that you didn't even read the article you linked.
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    Re: Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its obvious that that is all you read. You posted a link that is completely unrelated to what you are trying to argue.
    You are notorious for doing this. You could avoid it, if you read more than the headline. Like I said...it is obvious in this case that you didn't even read the article you linked.
    He is telling gays that if they come out of the closet they will be discharged.....
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    Re: Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    He is telling gays that if they come out of the closet they will be discharged.....
    LOL....yes....but the context of the article was that he was apologizing for his mistake by not realizing that asking gays in the military how to help eliminate DADT would violate the law.
    He wasn't saying "The Fight goes on" ....come out and you will be discharged.

    I can understand how someone (like yourself) that hadn't read the article, might be mislead by the headline....but it usually helps if you read the article before you link it and post a thread. It helps keep Pie off your face.
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    Re: Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

    From the linked(and unread by Navy) article:

    Third, with regard to the three soldiers who shared their views and thoughts with me on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell", I might better have counseled them that statements about their sexual orientation could not be treated as confidential and could result in their separation under the law."

    McHugh's mea culpa goes on to announce changes.

    "The working group is likely to utilize a third party from outside of the department to solicit these views so soldiers can speak candidly and without fear of separation. I urge every soldier to share his or her views and suggestions on this important issue through this channel. This is the appropriate way to do so."
    If this does not highlight how stupid the rule is, I don't know what is. The military cannot talk to gay soldiers about the policy, because they would then have to discharge them, so they have to get a third party group to do it.
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    Re: Army Secretary: Soldiers Can Still Be Discharged for Admit They Are Gay

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post

    If this does not highlight how stupid the rule is, I don't know what is. The military cannot talk to gay soldiers about the policy, because they would then have to discharge them, so they have to get a third party group to do it.
    I"d call this military intelligence

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