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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

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    The goddess of bacon must be Catholic.
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    ****ing catholic my ass.

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

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    ****ing catholic my ass.

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    A pleasant smattering of WASPS calling for the removal of hate crime laws.

    Please find some Gays, Lesbians, Afro-Americans, Mex-Americans, and Jews to chime in with ya'll.

    I'll wait.
    Oh no I guess if you are not a racial/ethnic minority,gay,religious minority or what ever else I guess you can't speak out against racist laws and other similar laws.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Oh no I guess if you are not a racial/ethnic minority,gay,religious minority or what ever else I guess you can't speak out against racist laws and other similar laws.
    Of course you can speak out james. It just seemed like (in an earlier post) you were crying that straight white folks get left out of the hate crimes laws.

    Here it is:
    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage
    Being a member of a particular group should not get you any extra benefits, punishments or extra justice under the law.
    Why the hell not? If your particular group gets pummeled on a regular basis for no more than being who they are, they should be afforded extra protection.

    To protect and to serve. Police motto no?
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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

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    In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections :: EDGE Dallas

    Oklahoma accidentally voted to strip some protections based on race and religion because they cited the wrong statute.

    They were trying to remove those protections based on sexuality - Oklahoma doesn't want to abide by the recent federal change that adds sexuality-based hate crimes to the list. They cited the wrong statute and accidentally stripped some protections based on race or religion.

    The bill in question prevents local law enforcement from sharing any information with the feds about a hate crime if Oklahoma does not recognize the crime as a hate crime. So, if someone commits a religious hate crime in Oklahoma right now, they are legally barred from sharing information with the feds.

    Why they would want to remove this protection from homosexuals is beyond my powers of imagination.
    It seems like some of these backwards States are not even in American any more.

    These states and local municipalities elect far-right retards to positions of power and anything and everything we stand for as a country get flushed down the toilet.

    Well done OK!!

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

    Of course you can speak out james. It just seemed like (in an earlier post) you were crying that straight white folks get left out of the hate crimes laws.
    Ah, it makes sense. I'm universally loved because I'm a straight white male. I guess terms like "cracker ass" are terms of endearment.

    Seems like in your world, racism is only a majority having prejudiced thought about a minority. The little guy is always right, regardless of words or actions.

    If I beat up a black guy, I committed a hate crime. If a black guy beat me up, I probably just deserved it. Thanks for clearing all that up, buddy. Apparently I'm living in the wrong century to be a white male.

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    Re: In Slipup, Anti-Gay Okla. Lawmakers Vote to Strip Race, Religion Protections

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Of course you can speak out james. It just seemed like (in an earlier post) you were crying that straight white folks get left out of the hate crimes laws.
    Pointing out the hypocrisy of a law does not mean you were complaining or whining why it that same law does not apply to you. Besides what earlier post was I crying about being left out of hate crime laws?


    Why the hell not?
    AS pointed out earlier by riverat

    "A crime should not be more heinous just because it happened to someone who is a member of a certain group. All that should matter is that it happen to a PERSON. "



    If your particular group gets pummeled on a regular basis for no more than being who they are, they should be afforded extra protection.
    No they shouldn't. If you get assaulted its an assault against you regardless of the reason someone assaulted you, no one else was assaulted but you. Hate crime laws are an excessive fine or punishment.



    To protect and to serve. Police motto no?
    There is no "and extra protection for religious,ethnic/racial minorities and homosexuals" at the end of that protect and serve. Besides I do not see what a police motto has to do with handing someone an extra punishment just because of the victim happens to be a in a protected class. Police can arrest you but they can not hand out punishments.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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