Page 17 of 26 FirstFirst ... 71516171819 ... LastLast
Results 161 to 170 of 252

Thread: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

  1. #161
    Sage
    Dav's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    04-16-16 @ 02:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    5,539

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if you post high. Asking people about a subject matter in which they do not have a proper understanding of is kind silly from the perspective if the subject is to be removed.
    No, in a democracy, the will of the people matters. Period. Whether or not you're a smug elitist who thinks that people are too ignorant to have an opinion is irrelevant in regards to an issue that is subject to the democratic process. Now, if you hate democracy, that's another story.


    Only to you.
    No, to everyone. You refuted an argument that nobody made (and you admitted that nobody made it). That's called a straw man argument.


    So opinions that hold no facts are to be used in repealing or legislating bills?
    YES. I'm glad you finally caught on. It's called "democracy".

    Fine, no one had to be forced to buy something before.
    Thank you.

  2. #162
    Sage
    cpwill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    USofA
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:30 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    57,148

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Hey Chief, did you tell me a short while back that military retiree's had "Tricare?" Did that take the place of Champus? Is Tricare available to the public on the open market?

    How does it work these days? Can you pick your own insurance provider and doctors, and whatnot, and the government participates in all or part of the tab?

    Or is Tricare a government (read:socialist) ran insurance? What's Tricare all about? What are the insurance options of a retiree?

    If I'm being too nosey, I apologize.
    Tricare is the military's health insurance; and they have a couple of different policy options. there is a retirement option, Tricare for Life or something like that; but as Tricares' reimbursement rates are sub-par, you are basically accepting slightly-worse-than-medicare-reimbursement for life; which means it's going to be tough to find providers.

  3. #163
    Jedi Master
    Captain America's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,674

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Tricare is the military's health insurance; and they have a couple of different policy options. there is a retirement option, Tricare for Life or something like that; but as Tricares' reimbursement rates are sub-par, you are basically accepting slightly-worse-than-medicare-reimbursement for life; which means it's going to be tough to find providers.
    Thanks CP.

    I see even civillian retirees takin' it hard with their insurance burdens. Wouldn't it be great if Joe the Plumber could be guaranteed quality health care, for life, after working hard and honest his whole working life, like our vets and retirees deserve after putting in, say, only 20 years or so? But Joe only worked at Acme Plbg. for 10 years before they went under. Then he worked for Crown Plumbers, for 5 before the franchise went kaput. He's been doing well on his own for 10 years, but after showing up at work everyday at 6:00 am, for 25 years, he ain't got ****. In fact, he's probably worried if they will even insure him at all since his blood pressure went up.

    I wonder what the premiums on a similar Tricare plan would cost the civillian public? Sounds smart to me that the govt., if they REALLY wanted to change health care, would set up it's own insurance styled entity and offer quality health care, and do it not for profit but also not for loss. Of course, that would make the private insurance companies to have to compete. I can already see one side of the aisle not liking that idea.




    <edit> I was just informed that Joe was in the union those 25 years and even though he worked for several different jobs, the union handled his insurance. So, false alarm. Joe's set. Don't worry about Joe.


    Hmmmmm............ <there has to be an idea in there somewhere?>
    Last edited by Captain America; 04-03-10 at 10:15 PM.

    It's GREAT to be me. --- "45% liberal/55% conservative"
    Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy" until you can find a gun.

  4. #164
    Sage
    UtahBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    12-03-17 @ 01:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,687

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    All due respect Utah, because our military retiree's deserve the best we have to offer, but isn't that, pretty much, by definition, a brand of the "socialist" insurance my esteemed collegue rails against? Is he saying to me that he enjoys, or despises, his own "socialist" health care?

    The message seems rather mixed to me. Please clarify.
    Let's call it socialism for those who have EARNED it....
    Just being born here is entitlement enough for some people. God forbid that we should ask them to do something for their country for a few years...

    Your esteemed colleage feels that he earned his, and it probably irritates him that others will get it for nothing....and if that is what he thinks, I can agree somewhat. Only those who are truly helpless should get free help. We should have the freedom to die on the sidewalk outside an emergency room if we refuse to buy insurance when we can actually afford it. Of the currently uninsured, I bet a majority of them CAN afford to buy the insurance, but choose not to. Why pay for something they might NEED, when it is so much more fun to spend their money on things they WANT.
    Last edited by UtahBill; 04-03-10 at 10:48 PM.
    Oracle of Utah
    Truth rings hollow in empty heads.

  5. #165
    Sage
    UtahBill's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Location
    Utah
    Last Seen
    12-03-17 @ 01:39 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    17,687

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Tricare is the military's health insurance; and they have a couple of different policy options. there is a retirement option, Tricare for Life or something like that; but as Tricares' reimbursement rates are sub-par, you are basically accepting slightly-worse-than-medicare-reimbursement for life; which means it's going to be tough to find providers.
    Just because doctors choose to accept lower reimbursement rates doesn't mean they are providing lower quality care.
    Oracle of Utah
    Truth rings hollow in empty heads.

  6. #166
    Student
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Last Seen
    04-13-10 @ 12:27 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    159

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    Wouldn't it be great if Joe the Plumber could be guaranteed quality health care, for life
    So Medicare is a failure? We can repeal it now?

  7. #167
    Sage
    disneydude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Los Angeles
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    25,145

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Romney is a RINO...He will be whatever you want him to be to get elected......

    Real Conservatives are against anything you can't pay for.........
    If by RINO you mean reasonable Republican....I agree. Romney is one of the few Republican candidates that I would consider voting for. In fact, he may be the only one.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

  8. #168
    Sage
    Navy Pride's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Pacific NW
    Last Seen
    05-07-15 @ 02:01 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    39,883

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Did you even read that post you quoted?

    Tell me navy, why should I be FORCED to pay for the costs of others who refuse to cover those costs they incur?
    You shouldn't.......

    The people that refuse to buy health insurance better have the money to pay for it if they need it but it is unconstitutional to force them to pay for it and fine them if they don't.........

    This is the USA not the USSR.
    Last edited by Navy Pride; 04-03-10 at 11:45 PM.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

  9. #169
    Student
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Last Seen
    04-13-10 @ 12:27 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    159

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    If by RINO you mean reasonable Republican....I agree. Romney is one of the few Republican candidates that I would consider voting for. In fact, he may be the only one.
    How is that responsibility working out for the residents of Massachusetts?

  10. #170
    Student
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Last Seen
    04-13-10 @ 12:27 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    159

    Re: 55% Favor Repeal of Health Care Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You shouldn't.......

    The people that refuse to buy health insurance better have the money to pay for it if they need it but it is unconstitutional to force them to pay for it and fine them if they don't.........

    This is the USA not the USSR.
    You sure about that?

    We're now a nation that coerces citizens to purchase a private good/service as a condition of citizenship.

    Via the threat of fines, citizens are compelled to work to support the behavior and activities of others...this Obamacare is a logical extension of that.

Page 17 of 26 FirstFirst ... 71516171819 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •