I don't believe enlisted in the Navy aboard ship or Marines will ever accept gays serving openly in the military
Well, this is certainly something that is going to take a long time.
....If DADT is overturned then I believe their contract was violated and they should be given the opportunity to resign and paid a bonus upon their leaving......
DADT created problems. It actually damaged the services. With DADT, individuals (gay or straight) only had to announce sexual preference and they were processed. It became an easy out for many whether they were gay or not. The amount of NJPs and Court Martials skyrocketed in the 90s because DADT forced the military to address the issue instead of largely ignoring at as it once did.
.......You know as well as I do that the military is there for one reason and that is to fight our wars and protect us......It is not there for social experimentation......
Not experimentation, but it has been in the military where social growth has always led the way in America. While blacks were riding in the backs of busses in parts of America and before Affirmative Action, they were walking in patrols along side white men in Korea. And as the general population struggled with equality, blacks and white called each other brother in Vietnam. Women also pushed forward in the military long before they achieved status in the civilian sector. We had female commanders and bomber pilots long before it was frowned upon to slap your secretary on the ass. Today we have admirals and generals. How many female CEOs are there?
The point I am making is that because the military is an institution of obedience to orders, it is perfect for forcing social growth - not as an experiment, but as an inevitable move for an advancing society. Gays have been the exception. It's the military that lags this time.
I talk to enlisted people all the time and 90% of them hate the idea of DADT being lifted......They believe it will have a huge effect on morale and unit cohesion........
That's because to most military personel, DADT is all they know. Its a knee jerk reaction to the prospect of the future. DADT has been a pain in the ass. Before DADT, gays were just not discussed. After DADT, the subject became a burden because it was forced to the spotlight.
But they are correct. It will have a huge affect on morale and unit cohesion here and there. But for the most part, it won't because gays aren't going to throw themselves parades in front of their platoons.
I agree with the Commandant of the Marine Corps my friend..........
Well, I do too. But what are you agreeing with..........
"I would not ask our Marines to live with someone that's homosexual if we can possibly avoid it," Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway told a Web site in an interview posted Friday. "And to me that means we've got to build [barracks] that have single rooms."
Asked about the possibility of gay and straight Marines living together, Conway told the site Military.com that he would "want to preserve the right of a Marine that thinks he or she wouldn't want to do that -- and that's the overwhelming number of people that say they wouldn't like to do so."
Conway said the Marine Corps is the only branch of the armed services that houses two to a room.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/03/26/marines.gay.housing/index.html
He didn't state that gays should not be allowed to join. What he stated was that the Marine Corps would have to deal with the issue in the barracks. A straight Marine will not get along with a gay Marine in the same room for the most part. There will have to be a degree of segregation for a while and this will affect morale and unit cohesion. The civilian's knee jerk reaction is to tell the straight Marine to suck it up or get out. But is this practical? Gays in the Marine Corps will not be very common. It is a very alpha male service and a very prescribed culture. Those kind of gays that will join will behave much like those gays who have already joined. They will not look for attention. But because we
do have a distinct type of culture in the Corps, there will be hazings, beatings, and whatever else to come over this. This means fracturing units, Court Martials, and headaches for all. But this will pass. The integration of blacks in the Marine Corps, went from racial tension to racial joking. We throw jokes back and forth and drink beers over it. Eventually, gays will be enjoying the jokes too.
In my opinion, it is probably too soon for this to happen. But how long do we deny the inevitable?
You really have a complex redress........Lighten up........Regardless of what ship you were on you were a transient.......Everyone in your squadron was....You have no clue what its like to be ships company........The same as the 2 AK2s that worked for me...You can't change that............
