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Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

jallman said:
Oh so now we're going to devolve into calling me a leftie now that we have a serious disagreement.

At least I will be in good company with all the others you spew that at.
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We welcome you into our fold....my moderate friend...:2wave:
 
jallman said:
Oh so now we're going to devolve into calling me a leftie now that we have a serious disagreement.
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Lefty just means "jerk loser who I disagree with." All original meaning has been ground out of it by constant abuse.
 
jallman said:
Oh so now we're going to devolve into calling me a leftie now that we have a serious disagreement.

At least I will be in good company with all the others you spew that at.
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jallman you need to learn to read....I did not call you a lefty....I called your friends lefties..........
 
Navy Pride said:
This is not personally directed to me?:confused:
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No. It's an imagined statement from a commanding officer confronting an sailor or soldier who has announced he is gay and wants to prove it. It wasn't directed at you at all. Imagine it as a cartoon with quote bubbles and you'll get the joke, maybe.
 
misterman said:
No. It's an imagined statement from a commanding officer confronting an sailor or soldier who has announced he is gay and wants to prove it. It wasn't directed at you at all. Imagine it as a cartoon with quote bubbles and you'll get the joke, maybe.
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Talk about doubletalk............
 
jallman said:
Navy, he's serious...it wasn't directed at you. And it was actually pretty funny if you were jumping to take offense at something.
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It was in response to a post I made.........
 
Navy Pride said:
It was in response to a post I made.........
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Jallman got it right. It was a joke that was based on something you said, but it wasn't about you. I put it in quotes for that reason.

Look, if I wanted to insult you, I would, and I'd come out and say I was.
 
Navy Pride said:
jallman you need to learn to read....I did not call you a lefty....I called your friends lefties..........
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Damn that Jallman having left wing friends....

Navy, you have been having a really bad week here. You are continuing it here. Misterman saw a way to make a joke in relation to something you said. He was not making fun of you or your words.
 
Redress said:
Damn that Jallman having left wing friends....

Navy, you have been having a really bad week here. You are continuing it here. Misterman saw a way to make a joke in relation to something you said. He was not making fun of you or your words.
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This week? When isn't NP getting pwned?
 
So two gay sailors walk into a bar...
 
Kelzie said:
So two gay sailors walk into a bar...
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Why does it got to be sailors? Couldn't it be marines, or more likely Air Force guys?
 
Redress said:
Damn that Jallman having left wing friends....

Navy, you have been having a really bad week here. You are continuing it here. Misterman saw a way to make a joke in relation to something you said. He was not making fun of you or your words.
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I would really be concerned about a bad week if it was someone else but you saying it....;)
 
katiegrrl0 said:
The fact that he wants to separate them is a bigoted move. he is presuming the worst in behavior. his opinion on this tells me that he sees gays as not being able to control their actions. That is a judgment on his part and bigoted. How do you not clearly see this.
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It's because you're incapable to view things from more than one demention.

There are gays in the world that won't be able to control their behavior. They're human. Just like straights, they're no more, or less, falable than any of the rest of us.

This move is to protect everyone, male and female. This is to provide a safe and comfortable living environment for gays, just as it is for straights. Why on Earth would you want to force gays soldiers to live in an environment that could possibly be unsafe for them? What good will that serve anyone? Won't be good for gays soldiers. Won't be good for straight soldiers. Won't be good for morale, nor unit cohesion and will probably result in soldiers comitting crimes against one another. Are you in favor of creating such conditions within our armed forces? I'm not.
 
Hatuey said:
Prove harassment in a military which allows gays to serve openly happens more often than in a military that does not.
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Most of the vets on this forum have told you it will. Serving and retired general and line officers are telling you it will. But, oh no, your zero military experience tells you that we're all wrong.

I don't get Liberals. Once ya'll make up ya'lls minds that the sun rises in the west, there's no getting through to you.
 
apdst said:
Most of the vets on this forum have told you it will. Serving and retired general and line officers are telling you it will. But, oh no, your zero military experience tells you that we're all wrong.

I don't get Liberals. Once ya'll make up ya'lls minds that the sun rises in the west, there's no getting through to you.
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Meh. They said the same thing about allowing blacks in the units with the whites. There'll be a big broohahah and then it will die down and no one will even remember what the fuss was about. This too shall pass.
 
Kelzie said:
Meh. They said the same thing about allowing blacks in the units with the whites. There'll be a big broohahah and then it will die down and no one will even remember what the fuss was about. This too shall pass.
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Will please. GOD!!!!! get off that wornout, lame ass argument?

Plus, stop acting as if there weren't race riots in the military.

When you were in the service, did you notice that, when given the oppurtunity, blacks wouldn't billet with whites? I saw it all the time. I turned a black sargeant into a black private first class one time, because of it. I moved his ass out of the NCO quarters into the enlisted barracks where he had to live with all kinds of white boys. I made damn sure he was the only black soldier in his squad and forbade him from socializing outside his squad, while on duty.

I guess you support forcing females to billet with males, sharing latrines, private areas and all. Am I correct? Do you understand why that doesn't happen?

Go read the DoD policy on sexual harrassment, then get back to us.

The only reason the brew-ha-ha will pass, is because the Liberal media will stop reporting incidences of sexual harrassment by/to gay soldiers. I'll be surprised if they report it at all.
 
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apdst said:
Will please. GOD!!!!! get off that wornout, lame ass argument?

Plus, stop acting as if there weren't race riots in the military.

When you were in the service, did you notice that, when given the oppurtunity, blacks wouldn't billet with whites? I saw it all the time. I turned a black sargeant into a black private first class one time, because of it.

I guess you support forcing females to billet with males, sharing latrines, private areas and all. Am I correct? Do you understand why that doesn't happen?

Go read the DoD policy on sexual harrassment, then get back to us.
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Mmm...yeah I'm good. Thanks though for the suggestion.

Tell you what. I currently work on a Marine Corps base. I work out and change every single day in the locker room. Odds are, some of the WMs I've been undressing in front of are lesbians. Do I care? No. Would I care if I knew who the lezzies are? No. Why? Cause I'm younger and more tolerant than you. Like the most of the Marine Corps is now. I'm sure some of the boys will bitch and moan, but when they see that the gay Marines aren't announcing it to the entire company it's going to be a non-issue. Just because they are allowed to be open in the service doesn't mean they're going to let everyone know.

And PS. Just cause an argument's old doesn't make it any less valid.
 
Kelzie said:
Mmm...yeah I'm good. Thanks though for the suggestion.

Tell you what. I currently work on a Marine Corps base. I work out and change every single day in the locker room. Odds are, some of the WMs I've been undressing in front of are lesbians. Do I care? No. Would I care if I knew who the lezzies are? No. Why? Cause I'm younger and more tolerant than you. Like the most of the Marine Corps is now. I'm sure some of the boys will bitch and moan, but when they see that the gay Marines aren't announcing it to the entire company it's going to be a non-issue. Just because they are allowed to be open in the service doesn't mean they're going to let everyone know.

And PS. Just cause an argument's old doesn't make it any less valid.
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As tolerant as you are, would you accept if the military made you shower with men and sh*t next to men?
 
Awesome! said:
As tolerant as you are, would you accept if the military made you shower with men and sh*t next to men?
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That's a completely different scenario. Gay men and women have been doing that sort of thing their entire lives in front of the same gender. Men and women haven't been doing that in front of each other and aren't used to it. Thankfully, just because gay people can do it doesn't mean we have to break down all barriers.
 
Kelzie said:
Tell you what. I currently work on a Marine Corps base. I work out and change every single day in the locker room. Odds are, some of the WMs I've been undressing in front of are lesbians. Do I care? No.
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Do you speak for all the WM's in the Corps? I thinking, no.

What should be the proper response to straight soldiers being harrassed by gay soldiers and gay soldiers being harrassed by straight soldiers, or gays harrassing gays be? Tell them they wanted to serve openly in the military, they got it, deal with it? And it's gonna happen, I don't care what fantasy land you live in that makes you believe it won't. We just had a gay congress critter step down for sexually harrassing a straight staffer for God's sake, so let's try to stick to reality rather than fantasy.





Would I care if I knew who the lezzies are? No. Why? Cause I'm younger and more tolerant than you.
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That's a cheap shot. You don't know me. But, a kid like you isn't mature and experienced enough to see the big picture. You've been brainwashed into believing that if one disagrees with you, one must certainly be a racist, or a homophobe. At no time would be capable of considering that my concerns relate more to the safety of all soldiers and the overall unit cohesion and discipline of our armed forces along with their ability to effectively operate on the battlefield, instead of giving a rat's ass about whose gay and who ain't.




And PS. Just cause an argument's old doesn't make it any less valid.
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That argument was **** 15 minutes after it was contrived.
 
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