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Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

spud_meister said:
do you really think a gay couple would have sex in a rom[sic] full of straight men?
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Do you really think a man and woman would have sex in a room full of both straight and gay men and women?

Why is separate but equal ok for men and women, but not ok for gays and straights?
 
winston53660 said:
For me there is more to life than the internet and you. Secondly I think you acting childish and that is why I did not respond initially.
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Nice try in case you did not know if your reading the thread your name appears at the bottom....


But anyhow I am with you..Let gays live with straights if women and men can live together aboard ship.....
 
Panache said:
Fine by me. I have had female roommates and gay roommates, and neither was a problem. Much ado about nothing IMHO.
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There's a little bit of a difference though, since in one of those cases you'd probably be the aggressor and in the other you'd be the defender (I assume).

It's a double standard, but it's not like heterosexual men are immune to it. Gay or straight, how often do you see male pre-school or kindergarten teachers? About the only position you can see where men are in charge of small children is in the Boy Scouts, and I'm sure I don't have to tell you what that's caused, based on the news of the last few yeas.

That's on top of the whole "damaging to morale" argument, which you could buy or sell. Personally I could give a crap. A limp wrist doesn't equate to a limp trigger finger. The physiology of men just makes them horny, often to the length that they don't know better. Even the episode of Family Guy about Chris going into the army had Peter making a joke about there being "all the brown people you can rape".

In society, men are guilty until proven innocent about this kind of stuff, and orientation is no "get out of jail free" card.
 
Panache said:
Do you really think a man and woman would have sex in a room full of both straight and gay men and women?

Why is separate but equal ok for men and women, but not ok for gays and straights?
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for the simple fact that a straight person will not have sex with a gay person, and i sincerely doubt a roomful of straight people will tolerate gay people having sex in their midst
 
liblady said:
what i said to you is true.....you don't have a clue about sexuality or sexual orientation. many gay people marry people of the opposite sex to fit in, or to try to repress their natural tendencies. a member of my family did just that.

so, no, you don't have a clue.
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Please Cindy Sheehan post something about the topic............
 
spud_meister said:
for the simple fact that a straight person will not have sex with a gay person, and i sincerely doubt a roomful of straight people will tolerate gay people having sex in their midst
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But you think a room full of both gay and straight people would tolerate straight people having sex in their midst?
 
Navy Pride said:
You did not respond to my question.......If gays and straights are housed together why not men and women? After all gays and straights are attracted to one another and so are men and women............can you tell me the difference?
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That is stupid question because the answer is so simple. See the part I put in bold. By your own logic, we only need to separate gay men from each other. A straight man is no more likely to be attracted to a gay man than with any other man. Therefore, even if the gay man was attracted to him, it would be unreciprocated and therefore would cause no problems unless the gay man made unwanted advances. If that were the case, it would be handled the same way as if a man made unwanted sexual advances on a woman.

We separate the sexes because they are attracted to each other not because one is attracted to just the other. That is why the comparison is invalid and you look ridiculous every time you try to bring it up as a valid argument.
 
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There's a little bit of a difference though, since in one of those cases you'd probably be the aggressor and in the other you'd be the defender (I assume).
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I wasn't the aggressor or defender in either case. I was the roommate.
 
I just hate how this whole conversation seems to be predicated on the idea that gay men are 24/7 sex hounds that can't control themselves when in each other's company.
 
CriticalThought said:
That is stupid question because the answer is so simple. See the part I put in bold. By your own logic, we only need to separate gay men from each other. A straight man is no more likely to be attracted to a gay man than with any other man. Therefore, even if the gay man was attracted to him, it would be unreciprocated and therefore would cause no problems unless the gay man made unwanted advances. If that were the cases, it would be handled the same way as if a man made unwanted sexual advances on a woman.

We separate the sexes because they are attracted to each other not because one is attracted to just the other. That is why the comparison is invalid and you look ridiculous every time you try to bring it up as a valid argument.
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The situation is identical.....Gay men are attracted to men.....lesbians are attracted to women.......straight men and women are attracted to one another.........At least you tried to resppnd, I give you credit for that........Your left wing buddies are silent.........


You tell me the difference...............
 
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Navy Pride said:
Nice try in case you did not know if your reading the thread your name appears at the bottom....
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Do you have a camera in my house to know what I was doing at the time


But anyhow I am with you..Let gays live with straights if women and men can live together aboard ship.....
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I have not expressed an opinion one way or the other about men and women living together. And gay and straight already live together.
 
Panache said:
But you think a room full of both gay and straight people would tolerate straight people having sex in their midst?
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perhaps not tolerate outright, but they would be more tolerant none the less, simply because the straight people would be the vast majority, and tend to find the concept of a man and a woman having sex more tolerable than a same sex couple.
 
jallman said:
I just hate how this whole conversation seems to be predicated on the idea that gay men are 24/7 sex hounds that can't control themselves when in each other's company.
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as a straight man was I was young and Liberal I was a 24/7 sex hound and most of my ship mates were to....its the nature of the beast...........

You being ex navy know that when you pull into port most of the guys hit the bars and look to hook up.......
 
Panache said:
I wasn't the aggressor or defender in either case. I was the roommate.
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I was saying that if something came up, that would be it. It's a reasonable assumption that you don't get drunk and curious one Saturday night, and that you didn't room with a bunch of girls who were pretty damn ugly. That would be the only way the rules change.

Personally, I can't relate. I've only had one female roommate in my past, and I was screwing her. I don't know the rules on platonomy and co-ed living arrangements.
 
jallman said:
I just hate how this whole conversation seems to be predicated on the idea that humans are 24/7 sex hounds that can't control themselves when in each other's company.
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Fixed it for you.
 
winston53660 said:
Do you have a camera in my house to know what I was doing at the time




I have not expressed an opinion one way or the other about men and women living together. And gay and straight already live together.
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No I don't, I just saw your name and I don't know what you would be doing here if you were not reading the thread............
 
Panache beat me to it. I already addressed it. It's not gay men that get that assumption. It's all of us. You're assumed to be trying to get into every man's pants just like I'm assumed to be trying to get into every woman's pants. Sucks being stereotyped like that, huh... :doh
 
Gipper said:
I was saying that if something came up, that would be it. It's a reasonable assumption that you don't get drunk and curious one Saturday night, and that you didn't room with a bunch of girls who were pretty damn ugly. That would be the only way the rules change.

Personally, I can't relate. I've only had one female roommate in my past, and I was screwing her. I don't know the rules on platonomy and co-ed living arrangements.
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I will tell you that some of those ugly women get really pretty after being at sea for a long time or after a couple of beers.......
 
Navy Pride said:
No I don't, I just saw your name and I don't know what you would be doing here if you were not reading the thread............
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I ate a little Mexican shrimp cocktail, talked to the girlfriend and watch my stock purchase from this morn. go up and thought about taking the profit.


There happy now?
 
Gipper said:
Panache beat me to it. I already addressed it. It's not gay men that get that assumption. It's all of us. You're assumed to be trying to get into every man's pants just like I'm assumed to be trying to get into every woman's pants. Sucks being stereotyped like that, huh... :doh
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Yeah it kinda does because, while I am your stereotypical horndog on my own time, like most every man, I understand that there's a boundary when on someone else's dime.
 
winston53660 said:
I ate a little Mexican shrimp cocktail, talked to the girlfriend and watch my stock purchase from this morn. go up and thought about taking the profit.


There happy now?
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and you were monitoring this thread otherwise your name would not appear..........
 
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