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That is fine just fpn't pretend to know anything about military life because you are clueless
Only if you do the same about homosexuals
That is fine just fpn't pretend to know anything about military life because you are clueless
Col. Margarethe Cammermeyer's
Well they still would be subject to the regulations of the UCMJ as would straights......
It's time for Col. Cammermeyer to retire. Her generation has passed and now she is living in the past. She cannot be allowed to drag the military down with her.
A data analysis released today by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention underscores the disproportionate impact of HIV and syphilis among gay and bisexual men in the United States.
The data, presented at CDC's 2010 National STD Prevention Conference, finds that the rate of new HIV diagnoses among men who have sex with men (MSM) is more than 44 times that of other men and more than 40 times that of women.
The range was 522-989 cases of new HIV diagnoses per 100,000 MSM vs. 12 per 100,000 other men and 13 per 100,000 women.
The rate of primary and secondary syphilis among MSM is more than 46 times that of other men and more than 71 times that of women, the analysis says. The range was 91-173 cases per 100,000 MSM vs. 2 per 100,000 other men and 1 per 100,000 women.
While CDC data have shown for several years that gay and bisexual men make up the majority of new HIV and new syphilis infections, CDC has estimated the rates of these diseases for the first time based on new estimates of the size of the U.S. population of MSM. Because disease rates account for differences in the size of populations being compared, rates provide a reliable method for assessing health disparities between populations.
"While the heavy toll of HIV and syphilis among gay and bisexual men has been long recognized, this analysis shows just how stark the health disparities are between this and other populations," said Kevin Fenton, M.D., director of CDC's National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD, and TB Prevention. "It is clear that we will not be able to stop the U.S. HIV epidemic until every affected community, along with health officials nationwide, prioritize the needs of gay and bisexual men with HIV prevention efforts."
She must be close to 70........I am sure she is retired......Point is she was a straight woman for probably 40 or 50 years and is now a lesbian...
I predicted this would come. Answer me this, then why don't they house the women with the straight men?Please stop using your dogmatic labels against me.
I just happen to think that, believing somehow that gays will have a negative impact on straight soldiers because they live in the same barracks. Is as rediculous as the notion that somehow black soldiers would make white soldiers worse soldiers.
It's old, fearful thinking.
If they're gay, and they're there anyway. Wouldn't it be like, secretly feeding your kid broccoli, and then him eating it. And then you telling him it's broccoli. And then all of a sudden he hates it, even though he had nothing to say before.
Well, it just shows that its prejudice and fear.
Homophobic thinking has very little to do with reality. It's simply put, a VERY deep seated fear that cannot be reasoned with.
Furthermore, the more one throws out hateful rhetoric while at the same time, vociferously denying being a homophobe, the more likely the person does in fact, suffer from this mental disorder.
Yes, when you have nothing, focus on calling everyone who knows the facts 'homophobes' and their pointing out the serious problems with such politicized agendas 'Hate Speech'.
Never mind actually coming up with any rebuttals or even a sane response.
I predicted this would come. Answer me this, then why don't they house the women with the straight men?
"i would not ask our marines....." aren't gays also "our marines"?Good to see some senior officers speaking up on this insanity
http://www.debatepolitics.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=130
March 26 2010
CNN) -- The Marine Corps' top officer says he would want to avoid housing gay and heterosexual Marines in the same rooms on base if the ban on gays openly serving in the military is lifted.
"I would not ask our Marines to live with someone that's homosexual if we can possibly avoid it," Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway told a Web site in an interview posted Friday. "And to me that means we've got to build [barracks] that have single rooms."
Some senior members of the military, however, have expressed concern over the impact of the ban's repeal on unit cohesion and morale, among other things
And when you can't dispute the message, kill the messenger.
Have a nice day,
as I said, the is no reasoning with deep seated fear and I won't bother trying.
lol.......so, if you hit on a woman she has every right to break your face?Probably not, but that would be my gut reaction to a perceived assault.....
I see no valid reason for a gay man to 'hit' on a man he knows is straight, and expect no consequences......
Would my reaction be considered simple assault, or would it be a hate crime?....
There will be a need to draw up acceptable lines of conduct for the individuals on both sides of this issue.....
I apologize if I offended anyone with my gut reaction to an unwelcomed advance......:3oops:
Re homosexual males and STD's, here it is, 2010, and going on three decades after the HIV issue was reproted, and yet homosexual males are still showing much higher rates of serious STD infection than the general population, despite all the ludicrous spin to the contrary.
CDC ? NCHHSTP Newsroom ? MSM Denominator Press Release March 10, 2010
Other links:
U.S. Gay Men's Astonishing HIV/STD Rates | The Bilerico Project
Gay Men's STDs Often Escape Notice: Study Reveals Many Infections Undetected by Current Protocol
No stats on homosexual men in the military's infection rates, but you can bet it's much higher than the norm, also, so any BS about military infection rates would have to distinguish between homosexual males and 'everybody else' to have any real meaning.
And of course the 'solution' is always to pointlessly waste yet more piles of money 'educating' them, as if it's actually possible not to have heard of AIDs in the homosexual 'community'.
You know the answer to that...There are but there are also gays being discharged every day for making unwanted sexual advances or violating the UCMJ........That is a fact.......
If I were stationed on a ship with 300 women and at sea for 90 day dressing, showering, and sleeping with them I doubt if I could control myself..........
That is how it is for gays when they are on a ship with 300 men......I don't even blame them..........I would be a hypocrite if I did........
Military members are required to have an HIV test at least once every 2 years. Many commands, at least in the Navy, will do one every year when the sailor comes in for his/her annual checkup. There currently are known HIV positive sailors serving on active duty. They are allowed to stay in the Navy, but they cannot serve overseas. (We were told in Hawaii, that there were 2-3 HIV positive sailors working there, but we were not allowed to know who they were, or their sexuality.) Also, the military has annual training on STDs, including HIV/AIDS, and prevention methods to spreading STDs. In fact, just a couple of years ago, some STD questions were on the Chief's exam.
Or she was a closeted lesbian for 40-50 years.
yes, right. you really don't have a clue, do you?Yeah right with 4 kids and a family........
First of all, Navy, be honest. You do not actually share a berthing with 300 men. The largest berthing on a carrier only fits about 100 men or so. Most are smaller. Second, you have separate shower stalls on the ship. It is not open bay showering like boot camp. Each person has his own shower to be in, with walls and a curtain.
And when you are talking about smaller, barracks rooms, as this Marine officer does, they might be two to a room, unless you are talking about boot camp, or possibly training, when they aren't in a combat zone. I know the barracks at K-Bay were two man rooms, with their own head. So why exactly would it be necessary to build whole new barracks, when only one person may be uncomfortable with their roommate being gay?
As I've asked before, what would be necessary proof that someone is gay, and should be moved to the separate barracks? A service member will not be required to divulge their sexuality, so if they don't, what would be the point of building an entire barracks for gay personnel, if you only have 1 or 2 that do tell?
yes, right. you really don't have a clue, do you?
Prove that there are gays being discharged every day for making unwanted sexual advances or violating the UCMJ, Navy. I dare ya. In fact, I dare you to prove that gays average a discharge once a month for making unwanted advances.
Most gays are discharged for either a) they turned themselves in as being gay and signed all the paperwork necessary to get out, or b) someone found out that they were gay because of some mutual relationship between them and a member of the same sex, military or civilian, and turned them in. I knew several people who got administratively discharged for being gay while I was in the Navy, not one of those was because they made an unwanted sexual advance.
Of course, they are violating the UCMJ by just being in a homosexual, intimate relationship. That is why when I say we need to repeal DADT, I include the caveat, to change the laws against homosexuality.
Why do you lefties always attack the messenger where you have had your ass kicked in a debate? I will never understand that.......Now go kill a baby.......