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Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

Redress said:
No, that is an unsubstantiated claim. There is a large, unsubtle difference between proven facts and unsubstantiated claims. I don't have the numbers, and neither do you apparently. Without the numbers and a source to them, your comments have no value.
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redress your impossible...Don't think you would believe your own mother if she was a Conservative.........Well it happened.....I know....I was at the courtmartials not you.....
 
Picaro said:
Ah, yes, PCness demands that the military bend over and accomodate every single tiny, insignificant demographic that politicians can dream up.

Some 1%-2% of people suffer from aquaphobia, about the same percentage of homosexual males in the population, so we should therefore demand that the Navy and Marines not operate on water, and clearly requiring being able to swim or at least learn how to is blatantly discriminatory and 'ignorant'.

Not to mention all the handicapped people who can't learn to swim or unable to as well! Clearly this needs a Civil Rights movement, and not just for aquaphobes, since it will promote diversity for us all!!! I mean really, how much could it cost to make aircraft carriers and all Navy ships wheelchair friendly? Pffft, hardly nothing ...

When will all military property finally be made wheelchair accessible??? Surely the Army Rangers obstacle courses can be made wheelchair friendly!!! Our Engineer Corps are surely up to making all future battlefields handicapped accessible.

It's time to stop the madness!!! Pandering to the sniveling and whining of every insignificant demographic on the face of the Earth, no matter how small, should be a goal we all should strive for, not just the military!!!
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Hear, Hear.........:applaud
 
Picaro said:
When will all military property finally be made wheelchair accessible??? Surely the Army Rangers obstacle courses can be made wheelchair friendly!!! !
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Can a gay person do the obstacle course just as well as a straight person?
 
Navy Pride said:
redress your impossible...Don't think you would believe your own mother if she was a Conservative.........Well it happened.....I know....I was at the courtmartials not you.....
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My mom is smart enough to know how to back up her claims. You are not proving anything, you are not even making a point other than you have no respect for our troops and their abilities.
 
Redress said:
My mom is smart enough to know how to back up her claims. You are not proving anything, you are not even making a point other than you have no respect for our troops and their abilities.
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You calling me a liar huh........well I don't do that to you........FFind yourself another spar mate because I don't lie........
 
winston53660 said:
Can a gay person do the obstacle course just as well as a straight person?
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Doesn't matter; the military can get along fine without them and the associated problems and expenses involved with pandering to them. Male homosexuals and their promiscuity disorders are so well documented it clearly becomes a general problem, and an unnecessary one, as unnecessary as wheelchair accessible submarines and motorcycles.
 
Navy Pride said:
You calling me a liar huh........well I don't do that to you........FFind yourself another spar mate because I don't lie........
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So you really believe I hate our troops, as you claimed?
 
Picaro said:
Male homosexuals and their promiscuity disorders are so well documented it clearly becomes a general problem, .
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Link please and please be specific to gays in the military.
 
katiegrrl0 said:
His statement is saying that he believes that gays have no self control. He is making a class statement and attacking gays. He is a bigot of the first degree and he should keep his trap shut. They should kick him out for this statement.
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well,

1. where did he say gays have no self control
2. where did he make a class statement
3. pointing out that repealing DADT will provide the military with a hose of problematic issues, a major one being berthing, does not make one a bigot. it makes one capable of basic logical function.
4. as a Marine, i'd much rather serve under such a man than one who would throw us under the bus in order to be politically correct.
 
cpwill said:
well,

1. where did he say gays have no self control
2. where did he make a class statement
3. pointing out that repealing DADT will provide the military with a hose of problematic issues, a major one being berthing, does not make one a bigot. it makes one capable of basic logical function.
4. as a Marine, i'd much rather serve under such a man than one who would throw us under the bus in order to be politically correct.
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Point #3

Given that homosexuals do serve in the military in shared bunks and things are ok with both the homosexuals and hetrosexuals currenty, why with the end of DADT should anything change?
 
winston53660 said:
Link please and please be specific to gays in the military.
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Its pretty common knowledge that a lot of gay men are very promiscuous having numerous partners in their lifetime...That is why their life expectancy is much shorter then straight males..........
 
4. as a Marine, i'd much rather serve under such a man than one who would throw us under the bus in order to be politically correct.
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Indeed. Some organizations are just not conducive to idiotic middle class wish lists and delusional fantasies about 'universal equality'; even Marx didn't believe in that, so it isn't really fair to characterize that as a 'leftist' meme; most of what passes for the 'Left' these days aren't leftists, just dilettante idiots who can't distinguish between having an open mind and a gaping hole in their heads.

It's probably all the insecticide laden weed and the Prozac.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Point #3

Given that homosexuals do serve in the military in shared bunks and things are ok with both the homosexuals and hetrosexuals currenty, why with the end of DADT should anything change?
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The bottom line is the military should not be used as a social experiment under any conditions and that is what you on the left are trying to do........
 
Navy Pride said:
Its pretty common knowledge that a lot of gay men are very promiscuous having numerous partners in their lifetime...
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And you have yourself bragged about your own promiscuity.

I bet the heterosexual STD rates are on average higher in the navy as well.
The Military

As if our men and women in uniform didn’t face enough threat to their well-being, the U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines have historically had higher STD rates than the civilian population. The running theory has always been that personnel of a sexually active age with long tours away from home—especially those deployed to countries with limited health care—simply find or put themselves at higher risk.

STD Superspreaders - Page 1 - MSN Health & Fitness - Men's Sexual Health
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winston53660 said:
And you have yourself bragged about your own promiscuity.

I bet the heterosexual STD rates are on average higher in the navy as well.
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Yeah when I was 18 or 19 I sowed a few oats but I an now 72 and have not sowed any since then........

When I was young I was a liberal like you but as I grew older got married had a family I saw the error in my ways...It happens to a lot of people but when you start having responsibilities you change........You seem pretty intelligent, I am sorry it did not happen to you.......

As far as gays being more promiscuous then straights and have a shorter life spam you believe what you want but that is the truth and it has been well documented.......A lot of it probably had to do with all the deaths in the eighties from the AIDS virus when the bath houses in Seattle and SF were filled with hundreds of gay men all having unprotected sex............

Sailors party a lot...I won't deny that..Women are more accessible to sailors overseas....That is probably the main reason if its true that sailors are more promiscuous but I have not heard their lifespan was shorter because of that......Most Gay men are promiscuous theit whole life........I have even heard the AIDS virous gave a lot of men a death wish........Not saying its true.......
 
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Originally Posted by katiegrrl0
His statement is saying that he believes that gays have no self control. He is making a class statement and attacking gays. He is a bigot of the first degree and he should keep his trap shut. They should kick him out for this statement.
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I don't know that can be a homophobic or bigots statement when I am saying the same thing about myself........

Again if I was on a ship with all women and out at sea for long periods of time sleeping, undressing and showering I would probably be tempted to make my move.........Its natural........

Gays have the same problem aboard ship only its the opposite and I don't blame them for one minute if they succumb to temptation......

I have seen it over and over again.........this is why the general wants separate quarters for gays and straights...........
 
Navy Pride said:
The bottom line is the military should not be used as a social experiment under any conditions and that is what you on the left are trying to do........
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Are there or are there not homosexuals serving in the military right now sharing the same housing as hetrosexuals?
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Are there or are there not homosexuals serving in the military right now sharing the same housing as hetrosexuals?
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You know the answer to that...There are but there are also gays being discharged every day for making unwanted sexual advances or violating the UCMJ........That is a fact.......
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Are there or are there not homosexuals serving in the military right now sharing the same housing as hetrosexuals?
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You know the answer to that...There are but there are also gays being discharged every day for making unwanted sexual advances or violating the UCMJ........That is a fact.......
 
winston53660 said:
Why should I do your homework. You made the accusation it is up to you to support it.
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You should do your own homework, not demanding 'everybody else' do yours for you. If you really wanted to discuss it, you have done a search yourself. I didn't make an 'accusation', I stated a fact you can find on gay boards themselves. demanding 'links' just means you have zilch and just too lazy to do your own search. It's a lame and out-dated 'debating' tactic invoked purely to waste other peoples' time these days, and a holdover when from when there were no web pages and people actually had to source books and magazine articles in message board debates, but then the demographic back then was better educated and did indeed actually read, unlike the vast majority of Innernetz Rambos infesting discussions today who have read little or nothing at all but still insist on participating anyway.

And besides, few people ever read after 'demanding ' them, anyway, just move on without comment to some other 'talking point' gibberish, especially trolls who demanded them in the first place, so ... as I said, Google it yourself, or come up with a refutation on your own; if you can't, then go pester somebody else with tired and out-dated nonsense. I don't care if you remain ignorant or not, I'm not your Daddy or Mommy and I don't feel personally responsible for educating you. If you want to pretend I'm lying, then ignore my posts.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Are there or are there not homosexuals serving in the military right now sharing the same housing as hetrosexuals?
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You know the answer to that...There are but there are also gays being discharged every day for making unwanted sexual advances or violating the UCMJ........That is a fact.......
 
Navy Pride said:
You know the answer to that...There are but there are also gays being discharged every day for making unwanted sexual advances or violating the UCMJ........That is a fact.......
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And I bet there are also hetero males being discharged for sexual harrasment
 
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