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Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

Hatuey;1058649203[B said:
]She doesn't exist. You just made it up.[/B]



Lol old man, realize that you cannot disprove sexual orientation with anecdotal evidence.
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Navy Pride said:
All I ask is you condemn your liberal leaders for their lies and then I will apologize to you.......You just can't do it ...........
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Condemn your right wing leaders for sending troops to needlessly die, then not caring when they did.
 
Navy Pride said:
All I ask is you condemn your liberal leaders for their lies and then I will apologize to you.......You just can't do it ...........
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I am condemning you Navy. You where the one in this thread calling people names, lying about them, bring Charles Manson into the thread for no reason that makes sense to anyone except you wanted to appeal to emotion. You are trying to use misdirection to avoid taking responsibility for your own actions.
 
kansaswhig said:
I don't know about barracks on other posts, but here the Soldiers get their own room with a lock. The only thing they share is a kitchenette.

I guess the gay soldier may bake some gay cookies and the straight soldier eats one and turns gay.
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Don't eat the pink cookies!!!
 
IMO, having openly gay people in the military does legitimately bring up questions about housing. Many instances in the military you have to live with someone, this can be at home or at a deployed location. However, women and men are separated, and in some cases at deployed locations it is totally forbidden to have someone of the opposite sex in a room together even temporarily. This has something to do with sexual relations. So, it seems that if openly gay people were allowed to be in the military, then there should be separate rooms for everyone, since it also has to do with sex. Or the other option is: loosen the current rules, so it doesn't matter who is in whose room.


As far as the faulty comparison of gays in the military being the same issue as blacks being in the military, I would have to agree with Colin Powell: “…sexuality and sexual preferences is a different issue than blacks serving in the military…”
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[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pssZk9opON8"]YouTube- Repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell - Colin Powell and Sam Nunn[/ame]
 
cpwill said:
:roll: please. supporting DADT does not make one a bigot any more than not supporting homosexual marriage does...
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His statement is saying that he believes that gays have no self control. He is making a class statement and attacking gays. He is a bigot of the first degree and he should keep his trap shut. They should kick him out for this statement.
 
kansaswhig said:
Condemn your right wing leaders for sending troops to needlessly die, then not caring when they did.
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Are you talking about Obama who has now sent 60,000 men to Afghanistan and we have 100,000 there now.:confused:

Oh wait that doesn't count he is a liberal..........


Lets see Democrats started the Korean War and th Vietnam war where we lost 58,000 men........How many have we lost in thei war....5,000...You do the math my left wing friend........
 
katiegrrl0 said:
His statement is saying that he believes that gays have no self control. He is making a class statement and attacking gays. He is a bigot of the first degree and he should keep his trap shut. They should kick him out for this statement.
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If I were stationed on a ship with 300 women and at sea for 90 day dressing, showering, and sleeping with them I doubt if I could control myself..........

That is how it is for gays when they are on a ship with 300 men......I don't even blame them..........I would be a hypocrite if I did........
 
cpwill said:
:roll: please. supporting DADT does not make one a bigot any more than not supporting homosexual marriage does.
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Youre completely right - in that both viewpoints are based in bigotry equally, as opposed to common sense. Neither's worse than the other, really.
 
Anima said:
Youre completely right - in that both viewpoints are based in bigotry equally, as opposed to common sense. Neither's worse than the other, really.
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Can I ask you a question? Why can't someone have a different opinion on this issue and not be called names? You on the left always call us the intolerant one but in reality it is you that are intolerant......Thank God this is not Germany in 1930.........
 
Navy Pride said:
If I were stationed on a ship with 300 women and at sea for 90 day dressing, showering, and sleeping with them I doubt if I could control myself..........

That is how it is for gays when they are on a ship with 300 men......I don't even blame them..........I would be a hypocrite if I did........
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So since gays are already on those ships, you can show the documentation that they are all harassing their shipmates? Bet you can't.

Come on Navy, you have lied about liberals here, and now you are denigrating our soldiers and sailors, claiming they have no self control. Is there any one you won't insult to make your point?
 
Navy Pride said:
If I were stationed on a ship with 300 women and at sea for 90 day dressing, showering, and sleeping with them I doubt if I could control myself..........

That is how it is for gays when they are on a ship with 300 men......I don't even blame them..........I would be a hypocrite if I did........
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Wrong. Most people are able to control themselves. You've told us that you don't have that ability and would immediately start sexually assaulting the women. Fortunately, most people are different.
 
Redress said:
So since gays are already on those ships, you can show the documentation that they are all harassing their shipmates? Bet you can't.

Come on Navy, you have lied about liberals here, and now you are denigrating our soldiers and sailors, claiming they have no self control. Is there any one you won't insult to make your point?
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Hell yes, they are being kicked out of the Navy all the time.......I saw at least a dozen go in my career and 15,000 have been kicked out since DADT was enacted in 1993........
 
Navy Pride said:
Hell yes, they are being kicked out of the Navy all the time.......I saw at least a dozen go in my career and 15,000 have been kicked out since DADT was enacted in 1993........
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Not even close to proving your point Navy. People can be discharged under DADT for saying they are gay, sexual harassment is not required. SO I ask you again, can you document your claim that gays cannot handle themselves on ship? Or will you for once man up and admit you are lying and disparaging people to make a point?
 
disneydude said:
Wrong. Most people are able to control themselves. You've told us that you don't have that ability and would immediately start sexually assaulting the women. Fortunately, most people are different.
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And you know huh...You have served...experienced this.......What ship were you on? Maybe we were on the same ship..........
 
Redress said:
Not even close to proving your point Navy. People can be discharged under DADT for saying they are gay, sexual harassment is not required. SO I ask you again, can you document your claim that gays cannot handle themselves on ship? Or will you for once man up and admit you are lying and disparaging people to make a point?
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That is true but a hell of a lot got kicked out for making unwanted advances........that is a fact.........Before there was a DADT they were getting kicked out to...I know, I was there for 21 years.....
 
Navy Pride said:
That is true but a hell of a lot got kicked out for making unwanted advances........that is a fact.........Before there was a DADT they were getting kicked out to...I know, I was there for 21 years.....
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No, that is an unsubstantiated claim. There is a large, unsubtle difference between proven facts and unsubstantiated claims. I don't have the numbers, and neither do you apparently. Without the numbers and a source to them, your comments have no value.
 
Ah, yes, PCness demands that the military bend over and accomodate every single tiny, insignificant demographic that politicians can dream up.

Some 1%-2% of people suffer from aquaphobia, about the same percentage of homosexual males in the population, so we should therefore demand that the Navy and Marines not operate on water, and clearly requiring being able to swim or at least learn how to is blatantly discriminatory and 'ignorant'.

Not to mention all the handicapped people who can't learn to swim or unable to as well! Clearly this needs a Civil Rights movement, and not just for aquaphobes, since it will promote diversity for us all!!! I mean really, how much could it cost to make aircraft carriers and all Navy ships wheelchair friendly? Pffft, hardly nothing ...

When will all military property finally be made wheelchair accessible??? Surely the Army Rangers obstacle courses can be made wheelchair friendly!!! Our Engineer Corps are surely up to making all future battlefields handicapped accessible.

It's time to stop the madness!!! Pandering to the sniveling and whining of every insignificant demographic on the face of the Earth, no matter how small, should be a goal we all should strive for, not just the military!!!
 
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