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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

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    Never happened to me.
    Happened to this kid. I bet he would have appreciated some kind of built in protection within the system.

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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I think it's fair to say they wouldn't have enlisted if they were that put off by the concept.
    People join the military everyday with zero clue of what they're getting into.

    Let's just say that a gay enlistee is put off by it. Shouldn't he/she have the right to feel like joining the military wouldn't be a mistake, because he/she is gay? Shouldn't he/she feel that when they joined the military, that he/she be assured a safe and comfortable living environment, free of intimidation and harrassment? Isn't that what you're advocating?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    People join the military everyday with zero clue of what they're getting into.
    That's true for gays and straights. See, they actually are alike!!!

    Let's just say that a gay enlistee is put off by it. Shouldn't he/she have the right to feel like joining the military wouldn't be a mistake, because he/she is gay? Shouldn't he/she feel that when they joined the military, that he/she be assured a safe and comfortable living environment, free of intimidation and harrassment? Isn't that what you're advocating?
    No, he or she should have the right to not join the military because it's not the lifestyle for him or her. Gay or straight has exactly zero relevance to that decision except on a personal level: in other words, the military has no business making such a decision a matter of policy for gays and a matter of choice for straights.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

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    No, he or she should have the right to not join the military because it's not the lifestyle for him or her. Gay or straight has exactly zero relevance to that decision except on a personal level: in other words, the military has no business making such a decision a matter of policy for gays and a matter of choice for straights.

    The military has the right and the duty to insure that morale and discipline remain intact and if military commanders believe the best way to do that is to have segregate gay/straight billets, then that is their business and obligation to the defense of the nation to do so.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Happened to this kid. I bet he would have appreciated some kind of built in protection within the system.

    Gay soldier to leave Army after being assaulted by ‘fellow’ soldiers InterstateQ.com
    Are you saying that does not happen to strait people in the military? Further, is that commonplace?
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The military has the right and the duty to insure that morale and discipline remain intact and if military commanders believe the best way to do that is to have segregate gay/straight billets, then that is their business and obligation to the defense of the nation to do so.
    If it has a bearing on morale and discipline, sure. But experience and history indicate that it has none and so they have no business making it a matter of policy for gays and a matter of choice for straights.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    If it has a bearing on morale and discipline, sure. But experience and history indicate that it has none and so they have no business making it a matter of policy for gays and a matter of choice for straights.
    There is no history, for gay soldiers aren't serving openly in the United States military.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Are you saying that does not happen to strait people in the military? Further, is that commonplace?
    Does it happen to straight soldiers because of their sexual orientation?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    There is no history, for gay soldiers aren't serving openly in the United States military.
    There is history for other militaries that have allowed gays to serve openly and they haven't fallen apart. Sorry you find that inconvenient but it is what it is and you are just going to have to learn to live with it. Just like you are going to have to learn to live with the repeal of DADT, too. Suck it up, soldier.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Does it happen to straight soldiers because of their sexual orientation?
    Hey, straight soldiers get into fights over women, too. Let's get rid of women in the military. Or better yet, just get rid of soldiers altogether since they occasionally break the code of uniform justice!!!!

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