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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    In fact, I have. I had to court martial one soldier and discharge another soldier because of gay/straight sexual harrassment.
    And how many have you had to discipline for run of the mill sexual harassment? I'm going to guess much more.

    ...I already know what he thinks of the issue. Sorry to say, it doesn't paralell what you've been saying.
    Ah yes. I'm sure you know my husband better than I do. I just asked him again. Direct quote "It's inevitable. Fight it all you want, it's going to happen anyway. In time, everything's not an issue." And now he's annoyed cause the Empire got the upper hand while he was answering.


    Actually, I think that since it's not your ass on the line, you fail to understand.
    It's not yours either. And since I am in constant contact with today's Marines who are you to say you know them better?

    Proving something that hasn't happened yet is impossible. Time will prove me right.
    I'm sure it will. Luckily we'll only have to wait a year or so. And you can bet when it happens I'll drag this thread out and do the told ya so dance. Make sure you're still around.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    And how many have you had to discipline for run of the mill sexual harassment? I'm going to guess much more.
    Nary-a-one. I was in a combat arms unit and didn't have female soldiers to get sexually harrassed. I did have one of my soldiers court martialed in Germany for 134 counts of intent to rape, because he was caught in a female billet.



    Ah yes. I'm sure you know my husband better than I do. I just asked him again. Direct quote "It's inevitable. Fight it all you want, it's going to happen anyway. In time, everything's not an issue." And now he's annoyed cause the Empire got the upper hand while he was answering.
    What are you even talking about? Did I ever claim that there's no way it's going to happen?




    It's not yours either. And since I am in constant contact with today's Marines who are you to say you know them better?
    LOL...constant contact? Being a dependent and being in the service are two different things.



    I'm sure it will. Luckily we'll only have to wait a year or so. And you can bet when it happens I'll drag this thread out and do the told ya so dance. Make sure you're still around.
    What do you expect to prove? That I said it will never happen? I never said that. However, when the sexual harrassment cases go through the roof and assaults skyrocket, I'm for damn sure going to drag this bad boy out. Make sure you're still here.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nary-a-one. I was in a combat arms unit and didn't have female soldiers to get sexually harrassed. I did have one of my soldiers court martialed in Germany for 134 counts of intent to rape, because he was caught in a female billet.
    You know my point. Please don't make me hunt down the statistics for male/female sexual harrasment in the military. Young people are always going to harrass each other and even if gays could be open, there's always going to be proportionally more cases of hetero harrasment. I know one gay Marine couple. Even if they could be open, they wouldn't tell anyone that would have a problem with it. I have a feeling most gays that serve in the military are the same way.

    What are you even talking about? Did I ever claim that there's no way it's going to happen?
    No...okay I asked if he had a problem with it. He said "eh." Though I really think at this point he's trying to ignore me.

    LOL...constant contact? Being a dependent and being in the service are two different things.
    Generally I would agree with you if my contact with the Marines was limited to Family Days. I probably interact with more than 200 of them though on a daily basis. So does my flaming co-worker and much to the detriment of my ego, I think the Marines like him better.

    What do you expect to prove? That I said it will never happen? I never said that. However, when the sexual harrassment cases go through the roof and assaults skyrocket, I'm for damn sure going to drag this bad boy out. Make sure you're still here.
    It's a date then.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    You know my point. Please don't make me hunt down the statistics for male/female sexual harrasment in the military. Young people are always going to harrass each other and even if gays could be open, there's always going to be proportionally more cases of hetero harrasment.
    I would love to see the info proving that.

    I know one gay Marine couple. Even if they could be open, they wouldn't tell anyone that would have a problem with it. I have a feeling most gays that serve in the military are the same way.
    That is why I'm in favor of leaving DADT in place and just not discharging gay service members. I'm more tolerant than you thought. Huh?



    No...okay I asked if he had a problem with it. He said "eh." Though I really think at this point he's trying to ignore me.
    I think he's trying to keep the peace. I don't discuss politics with my wife, either, for the same reasons...



    Generally I would agree with you if my contact with the Marines was limited to Family Days. I probably interact with more than 200 of them though on a daily basis. So does my flaming co-worker and much to the detriment of my ego, I think the Marines like him better.
    You're still not serving within an actual unit. There's alot you're missing.



    It's a date then.
    Don't call it a date, your 'ole man might whip my ass...
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I would love to see the info proving that.
    It's hard to get statistics for something that hasn't happened yet. I promise, as soon as they come out I'll get them to you.

    That is why I'm in favor of leaving DADT in place and just not discharging gay service members. I'm more tolerant than you thought. Huh?
    Soo...what would that look like exactly? I mean, how is that any different from allowing them to serve openly?


    I think he's trying to keep the peace. I don't discuss politics with my wife, either, for the same reasons...
    No, that's not it. We have some rockin' fights about politics. He's just really...absorbed right now in defeating the Empire.

    You're still not serving within an actual unit. There's alot you're missing.
    Not to bicker, but even if I was I doubt it'd much matter unless I was a guy. Women are generally much less grossed out by homosexuality.

    Don't call it a date, your 'ole man might whip my ass...
    It's a committment to a discussion at a future point in time then.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post
    Meh. They said the same thing about allowing blacks in the units with the whites. There'll be a big broohahah and then it will die down and no one will even remember what the fuss was about. This too shall pass.
    That is a red herring and a copout..there is no comparison between gays and blacks......When gays do their 400 years of slavery come see me.......
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Most of the vets on this forum have told you it will. Serving and retired general and line officers are telling you it will. But, oh no, your zero military experience tells you that we're all wrong.

    I don't get Liberals. Once ya'll make up ya'lls minds that the sun rises in the west, there's no getting through to you.
    Actually, that is not true. The vets on this board are pretty divided about what will happen. You and NP are the only really hardline vets against this, me and Roguenuke are pretty hardline in favor. Sorry, but factually, you are again in the wrong. Guess that sun is rising in the west in your world and their is no getting through to you.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Kelzie View Post


    If you want to play the experience game, I just asked my husband, who's been in 17 years and counting, how he feels about it. He shrugged and said it's bound to happen. Not exactly the panic you seem to be feeling is it?
    Really? Would not have guessed that, but in a way I guess I am not surprised. I don't tend to agree with him on a whole lot, but he is pretty reasonable usually.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    That is a red herring and a copout..there is no comparison between gays and blacks......When gays do their 400 years of slavery come see me.......
    They were/are both being treated like second-class citizens by our military.








    And how do you know that gays aren't well-endowed?
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    They were/are both being treated like second-class citizens by our military.








    And how do you know that gays aren't well-endowed?
    While you are right in that there are points for comparison, Navy is right too in a way, though it hurts his overall point. Allowing gays to serve in the military is not going to be like letting blacks serve. I have heard some of the horror stories from early integration days from people who lived it in the navy. It's not going to be like that, at all. Society and the military are much more ready to accept gays as just people than they where to being ready to accept blacks as just people.

    AS far as being well endowed, we need Jallman here so we can check.
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