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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The problem in this entire debate is how sexually illiterate the people debating against gay civil rights are. You have the very SAME people who say we shouldn't teach our kids about STIs, condom use and healthy sex in schools, telling us what sexuality is. The same people who think feminism is about oppressing men are debating sexuality. How in the damn hell is it this debate has lasted so long? We are debating a group of people with a limited knowledge of sexuality on a subject which doesn't require religious knowledge, military knowledge or personal experience. It requires some ****ing concept of what sexuality actually is.
    Oh yes, I know. But you're talking about a stubborn lot that can't think past the idea that "teh gays are gonna eye **** me again cuz I'm so luscious".

    I mean, for Christ's sake, the one was talking about how they will lose their minds around his, and I quote, "hard, military physique". WTF?

    Sounds like "teh gay" might be contagious after all.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Oh yes, I know. But you're talking about a stubborn lot that can't think past the idea that "teh gays are gonna eye **** me again cuz I'm so luscious".

    I mean, for Christ's sake, the one was talking about how they will lose their minds around his, and I quote, "hard, military physique". WTF?

    Sounds like "teh gay" might be contagious after all.
    I'm just surprised nobody has argued that if we let gays serve openly then we'll have to leg pigs and goats serve too.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    [QUOTE=roguenuke;1058654788]First, you just stereotyped gays with your reference to men who have feminine traits. A man who has feminine traits is not necessarily gay, that is a stereotype. In fact, many male cross-dressers are actually heterosexual. And not all gay guys have feminine traits either. One of the guys I mentioned earlier was somewhat feminine, although it wasn't obvious to me at first, but as for the other guy, most people had no clue he was attracted to guys at all (he was bisexual).

    Also, you said just a few post back that you didn't know a single gay guy put out that wasn't due to him making unwanted sexual advances. Guess what? You just admitted to knowing two. A mutual relationship is not an unwanted sexual advance.[/QUOTE]


    I didn't make that stereotype up...Its been there for a thousand years...I am sure you have heard it to......Your preaching to the choir but I am glad you brought up cross dressers and transvestites to......How are they going to play in DADT? Will they dress as men or women? What heads will they use...........just many more problems if God forbid DADT goes away......


    On the bolded part that is not true...Of course there are people getting out for other reasons and Consenting adults having gay sex is against the law to......
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    I didn't make that stereotype up...Its been there for a thousand years...I am sure you have heard it to......Your preaching to the choir but I am glad you brought up cross dressers and transvestites to......How are they going to play in DADT? Will they dress as men or women? What heads will they use...........just many more problems if God forbid DADT goes away......
    This is idiotic. If you serve in the military there is a dress code which applies to everyone. If you do not abide by it, you get removed from the military regardless of your sexuality. DADT is a discriminatory practice which applies to gays ONLY. Your argument is a complete fallacy.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This is idiotic. If you serve in the military there is a dress code which applies to everyone. If you do not abide by it, you get removed from the military regardless of your sexuality. DADT is a discriminatory practice which applies to gays ONLY. Your argument is a complete fallacy.
    It is obvious again that you have never served and you are ignorant on the subject or you would not say that.......When your report for work in the morning you wear civilian clothes and then change into your work clothes..Same thing when you go home at night.......

    How will that work with a cross dresser? What heads will they use? If one is having a sex change how is that handled?
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    I'm just surprised nobody has argued that if we let gays serve openly then we'll have to leg pigs and goats serve too.
    Well, we have already let dogs, horses, dolphins and camels serve in the military, so it wouldn't really be much of a stretch.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

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    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    First, you just stereotyped gays with your reference to men who have feminine traits. A man who has feminine traits is not necessarily gay, that is a stereotype. In fact, many male cross-dressers are actually heterosexual. And not all gay guys have feminine traits either. One of the guys I mentioned earlier was somewhat feminine, although it wasn't obvious to me at first, but as for the other guy, most people had no clue he was attracted to guys at all (he was bisexual).

    Also, you said just a few post back that you didn't know a single gay guy put out that wasn't due to him making unwanted sexual advances. Guess what? You just admitted to knowing two. A mutual relationship is not an unwanted sexual advance.[/QUOTE]


    I didn't make that stereotype up...Its been there for a thousand years...I am sure you have heard it to......Your preaching to the choir but I am glad you brought up cross dressers and transvestites to......How are they going to play in DADT? Will they dress as men or women? What heads will they use...........just many more problems if God forbid DADT goes away......


    On the bolded part that is not true...Of course there are people getting out for other reasons and Consenting adults having gay sex is against the law to......
    Consenting adults having gay sex is against the UCMJ, not the actual law. For gays to truly serve openly, the UCMJ will have to be changed along with repealing DADT.

    I've already answered this question. If there is really a demand out there by cross-dressers to be able to wear the uniform of the opposite sex, then that will have to be addressed separately, because as I said before, it is a completely separate issue. Especially since many, if not most, cross-dressers are actually heterosexual men.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    It is obvious again that you have never served and you are ignorant on the subject or you would not say that.......When your report for work in the morning you wear civilian clothes and then change into your work clothes..Same thing when you go home at night.......

    How will that work with a cross dresser? What heads will they use? If one is having a sex change how is that handled?
    Again, it is a completely different issue than homosexuality. But if there comes a demand by cross-dressers to be able to wear the clothes they are most comfortable in, then that should be left up to the military to decide what is appropriate. The military, however, has some pretty strict dress codes for its service members, that are already at least a little discriminatory (thinking jewelry and hair differences for men and women), so I don't see much headway for this in the near future.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It's so friggin ridiculous that straight men think that we care about their bits and pieces for 5 minutes of shower time. At 5AM, all I care about is how hot the water is gonna be and rinsing the sleep away. After working all day, all I care about is washing the day away and getting to bed.

    How much do they really think we are on about the same equipment we have in that situation. FFS, this is how we spend our Saturday nights:



    A 5 minute shower ain't gonna top that enough to get me excited about it.

    This is how we spend our happy hours:



    A 5 minute shower ain't gonna top our typical afternoon. And all this gay ass talk about how the poor little straight boy is getting eye ****ed because of his "hard military physique" is bull****. You take a crowd of gay men and a crowd of marines, and I can guarantee you there will be a lower % body fat and a higher muscle mass among the homos than there will be among any group of straight men from any demographic.

    BTW, jallman, if you would like to continue to put some of these pictures up, I won't complain at all. Those guys on that float are so hot. I don't care if they're gay, they are so nice to look at.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Again, it is a completely different issue than homosexuality. But if there comes a demand by cross-dressers to be able to wear the clothes they are most comfortable in, then that should be left up to the military to decide what is appropriate. The military, however, has some pretty strict dress codes for its service members, that are already at least a little discriminatory (thinking jewelry and hair differences for men and women), so I don't see much headway for this in the near future.
    With all respect I have never seen someone that wants to make such radical changes in our military especiaslly with 2 wars going on.....You must have heard of unit cohesion and company morale but you act like its not even a factor......
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