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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Answer my question if you can?
    Okay, as long as you promise to answer mine too.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I am trying to give you a hypothetical when I say men and women should bunk together......I know that it will not happen..........The point I am trying to make is the attraction between men and women is the same as the one between Lesbians and other women and gays and other men............
    No, that's the problem. This has been pointed out to you by at least one, if not several other people in this thread. Gay men are attracted to men, but straight men are not attracted to those gay men. Gay women are attracted to women, but straight women are not attracted to those gay women. Few chances of an actual couple forming or an excessive amount of distraction of most of the people who are attracted to the people they are bunking with actually occurring, since most service members are actually heterosexual. However, when you are talking about men and women bunking together, since the vast majority of service members are heterosexual, then you now have a huge probability of couples forming, distractions occurring, and sexual harassment issues. The difference is largely in the probability of something happening when you compare the groups.

    Probability of something occurring if only one or two persons are attracted to the personnel that they live with, knowing that those others are almost certainly not attracted to them in return, extremely low.

    Probability of something occurring if pretty much all of the personnel that are attracted to each other in one way or another are all living together, and everyone knows that the attraction could easily be mutual, pretty frickin high.

    Most people are not interested in trying to start a relationship with someone who is not attracted to the gender they are. And anyone who tries to force someone into a relationship that they don't want to be in, no matter if they have the same sexuality or not, can easily be punished through other rules of the UCMJ, harassment and rape come to mind.
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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    So should we have separate locker rooms and bathrooms and dorms and all that stuff for gays in all other segments of society? At the gym, and in college? After all, there are going to be gays in those places too, staring at the rest of us.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So should we have separate locker rooms and bathrooms and dorms and all that stuff for gays in all other segments of society? At the gym, and in college? After all, there are going to be gays in those places too, staring at the rest of us.
    Separate but equal. It has worked many times before.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    I am not 100 % sure if it is true these days any more, but it used to be. The reality is that the stat probably came from educated people being more likely to come out of the closet.
    We can start throwing stats around if we need to, but you are correct: homosexuals have historically enjoyed higher education levels and higher average incomes than their straight counterparts. This has been explained in numerous studies as homosexuals viewing education and income as gateways to acceptance. It has also been recently that they view service to their country the same way, which is why I have changed to favor repealing DADT.

    You are 100% correct here.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Wow.

    You don't even understand what our military fights for.

    And you're lucky if you don't get dinged by the mods for this one.
    Oh I got dinged.

    And how is it exactly that I do not know what it is I, myself, fought for? As a U.S. Marine, I'm pretty sure the most qualified person to make an opinion would be myself and any other who has served in the military. I was in Iraq at age 19.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    Oh I got dinged.

    And how is it exactly that I do not know what it is I, myself, fought for? .
    So what did you fight for? And please try to specific and avoid generalizations.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    So what did you fight for? And please try to specific and avoid generalizations.
    "I (insert my name here) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

    Simple enough of an answer for you?

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    "I (insert my name here) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

    Simple enough of an answer for you?
    Grossly oversimplified, yes. Now answer his question.

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    Re: Marine officer: Gays, straights shouldn't share housing

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    "I (insert my name here) do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

    Simple enough of an answer for you?
    That is fairly broad actually. Now can you speak for yourself instead of a pre written oath?

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