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Death Threats Against Al Green

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This just came on Channel 13 in Houston. The FBI is now investigating death threats to Representative Al Green of Houston, who began getting them after he voted for the health care bill.

Al Green happens to be my congressman. When he had his town hall meeting here in Houston, I had a chance to get up and speak. There were so many people there that everybody had to draw numbers. Lucky for me, my number was drawn. Anyways, I asked how this was going to be funded, and expressed my concern that this was going to run up massive deficits. His answer was to evade my point, and talk about how health care was the right of every American.

OK, at least I tried to get an answer from Al Green, but make no mistake about it - I condemn anyone who would make threats. This is as unamerican as you can get. Those who think that making threats against an elected official ought to move to a nation more conducive to their philosophy - Like the Soviet Union.... Oops, thats, right, it doesn't exist any more. Well then, they can try Iran. I know, I know, Islamic and all that, but they are not so different from these Bozos are they? They only differences between those who are making the death threats and Islamic jihadists are:

1) Different religions - Islamic vs. either Christian or Atheist, or whatever other religion or philosophy floats peoples' boats here in America.

2) We have laws that keep people like this in check. Iran has laws that encourage violence and the murder of its citizens. Perhaps, if our Bozos merely converted to Islam, the Iranian government might be willing to put them to work doing what they only wish they could do here, but are too cowardly to do so. Then they would be perfectly happy.

Sorry if this is a bit over the top, but I rank those who make death threats right up there with the rest of the terrorist scumbags. Again, the only things stopping them are good police enforcement, a decent system of government, the 99.9% of Americans who find their actions reprehensible, and the inherent cowardice of these Bozos. Want to derail health care? Do it legally.

Thank God, there are only a few pathetic punks like these out there, but in our present political climate, those few cockroaches are now coming out of the woodwork. A can of Raid* right now would do nicely.

* Serious prison time for those caught making death threats.

I don't have a link yet, since this was just on the news, but I will supply one as soon as I can.
 
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This just came on Channel 13 in Houston. The FBI is now investigating death threats to Representative Al Green of Houston, who began getting them after he voted for the health care bill.

Al Green happens to be my congressman. When he had his town hall meeting here in Houston, I had a chance to get up and speak. There were so many people there that everybody had to draw numbers. Lucky for me, my number was drawn. Anyways, I asked how this was going to be funded, and expressed my concern that this was going to run up massive deficits. His answer was to evade my point, and talk about how health care was the right of every American.

OK, at least I tried to get an answer from Al Green, but make no mistake about it - I condemn anyone who would make threats. This is as unamerican as you can get. Those who think that making threats against an elected official ought to move to a nation more conducive to their philosophy - Like the Soviet Union.... Oops, thats, right, it doesn't exist any more. Well then, they can try Iran. I know, I know, Islamic and all that, but they are not so different from these Bozos are they? They only differences between those who are making the death threats and Islamic jihadists are:

1) Different religions - Islamic vs. either Christian or Atheist, or whatever other religion or philosophy floats peoples' boats here in America.

2) We have laws that keep people like this in check. Iran has laws that encourage violence and the murder of its citizens. Perhaps, if our Bozos merely converted to Islam, the Iranian government might be willing to put them to work doing what they only wish they could do here, but are too cowardly to do so. Then they would be perfectly happy.

Sorry if this is a bit over the top, but I rank those who make death threats right up there with the rest of the terrorist scumbags. Again, the only things stopping them are good police enforcement, a decent system of government, the 99.9% of Americans who find their actions reprehensible, and the inherent cowardice of these Bozos. Want to derail health care? Do it legally.

Thank God, there are only a few pathetic punks like these out there, but in our present political climate, those few are now coming out of the woodwork. A can of Raid* right now would do nicely.

* Serious prison time for those caught making death threats.

I don't have a link yet, since this was just on the news, but I will supply one as soon as I can.

Thank god! I thought it was the Reverend Al Green for a second, I just can't see him doing anything bad to anybody.

Look D. I agree that things need to calm down and that the ballot box is the way to take out the trash, but to call it unamerican? C'mon now, this country was founded by people who tarred and feathered tax collectors, dumped tea into a harbor acting like natives, burned down entire areas of loyalists, shot each other over policy disagreements, and hung traitors. I'm not saying we should do this, but it isn't unamerican.
 
Thank god! I thought it was the Reverend Al Green for a second, I just can't see him doing anything bad to anybody.

Look D. I agree that things need to calm down and that the ballot box is the way to take out the trash, but to call it unamerican? C'mon now, this country was founded by people who tarred and feathered tax collectors, dumped tea into a harbor acting like natives, burned down entire areas of loyalists, shot each other over policy disagreements, and hung traitors. I'm not saying we should do this, but it isn't unamerican.

Death threats are clearly unamerican.
 
It's un-American.

“I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.” — President John Adams¹
 
Death threats are clearly unamerican.
I'm not saying they are warranted, but American's have been threatening and killing our politicians since colonial times. I need your logic then behind it being unamerican, not trying to be a jerk about it, just curious.
 
It's un-American.

“I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.” — President John Adams¹
Which has what to do with anything here?
 
It's un-American.

“I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.” — President John Adams¹


That's hillarious, considering the tactics the Liberals have used for the past 30 odd years. Does anyone remember the Liberals telling us how dissent is the highest form of patriotism? How about civil disobedience? What about when Mary Landrieau wanted to assault Bush, because she was so mad?

What's un-American, is two goons with axe handles intimidating voters at a voting house and the DoJ refusing to press charges. What's un-American, are union thugs assaulting people who disagree with the government. What's un-American is illegally doing a background search on a citizen who embarressed Obama on national TV. All that's un-American and not once have the Dems been outraged about that.

Personally, I think this is very American. You ignore and ignore and ignore Americans long enough and they will figure out a way to get your attention. I wish the Dems would have listened to the voice of the people. things wouldn't have come to this, if they had.

This is just a case of the Leftists getting a taste of their own medicine and they don't seem to think it tastes too good.
 
I'm not saying they are warranted, but American's have been threatening and killing our politicians since colonial times. I need your logic then behind it being unamerican, not trying to be a jerk about it, just curious.

Did you ever read Pistols and Politics?
 
No, but I think I just found a new project.

Check it out. It's history of politics in SE Louisiana. Makes a few mean phone calls look tame by comparison.
 
It's un-American.

“I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy.” — President John Adams¹

Which has what to do with anything here?

The point was, you said the founding fathers had to take up arms, and, I offered a quote by President John Adams that said, he took up arms so that his sons need not. The revolution is over. We won. There is no need to take up arms.

Indeed if you do take up arms, you are taking them up against your fellow countrymen, and you are betraying precisely the nation our founding fathers were fighting to establish. Is that what you want? I sincerely hope not.
 
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Check it out. It's history of politics in SE Louisiana. Makes a few mean phone calls look tame by comparison.
Nice! Yeah we do have a colorful history.:rofl
 
I'm not saying they are warranted, but American's have been threatening and killing our politicians since colonial times. I need your logic then behind it being unamerican, not trying to be a jerk about it, just curious.

I know you are not trying to be a jerk. Guess what else? I think this is the first time we really disagree on something. Here is the way I see it:

America has progressed in fits and starts, sometimes falling back a bit, but always moving forward towards its ideals. Yes, there was a time when politicians were tarred and feathered without a trial. There were also times that blacks were lynched for trying to vote. None of it is good, but we continue to advance towards what we would consider to be "ideal America", where what we practice is what we preach in our Constitution and our laws.

No, we are not perfect, and never will be, but as long as we strive towards our goals, we are a great nation. That being said, yes, I understand that frustration can lead one to wax nostalgic for a better time, when politicians were ridden out on a rail, after being tarred and feathered. But it was a slippery slope from the tar and feathering of local politicians to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. You can't condemn the great, without also condemning the small. For if you accept the small, then the likelihood of the great occurring is greater, because law has broken down, and greater things become slightly ever so more acceptable. Where do you draw the line? You can't.

Yes, crap will still happen, and I doubt that we saw the last assassination with John Kennedy, or the last attempted assassination with Ronald Reagan, but any Democracy MUST condemn actions, both the small and the great, which seek to do violence. If America is to remain the great nation that it is, then its citizens (That's us) must uphold the values which are "American" in nature, and condemn those which aren't. One such value is the rule of law.
 
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The point was, you said the founding fathers had to take up arms, and, I offered a quote by President John Adams that said, he took up arms so that his sons need not. The revolution is over. We won. There is no need to take up arms.

Indeed if you do take up arms, you are taking them up against your fellow countrymen, and you are betraying precisely the nation our founding fathers were fighting to establish. Is that what you want? I sincerely hope not.
Okay that makes sense, I kind of had a feeling that's the point you were making but wanted to be clear. Jefferson had a bit more pessimistic view of things, but overall they all wanted us to benefit from their actions.

Here's where I'll play devil's advocate. If we took up arms against our fellow citizens it would mean that most people feel that the concept of our country is slipping away and more than likely certain citizens would be very specific targets. I join every sane American that hopes against hope that it never comes to that but that doesn't negate the history of the revolution. Is it unamerican to draw against our own citizens, in most cases yes, but if things ever got to the point of tyranny it has been conceded by the founders that what must be done must be done. So, take my opinion with a grain of salt, but treating politicians like **** employees and sometimes as enemies is part of our history.
 
I know you are not trying to be a jerk. Guess what else? I think this is the first time we really disagree on something. Here is the way I see it:

America has progressed in fits and starts, sometimes falling back a bit, but always moving forward towards its ideals. Yes, there was a time when politicians were tarred and feathered without a trial. There were also times that blacks were lynched for trying to vote. None of it is good, but we continue to advance towards what we would consider to be "ideal America", where what we practice is what we preach in our Constitution and our laws.

No, we are not perfect, and never will be, but as long as we strive towards our goals, we are a great nation. That being said, yes, I understand that frustration can lead one to wax nostalgic for a better time, when politicians were ridden out on a rail, after being tarred and feathered. But it was a slippery slope from the tar and feathering of local politicians to the assassination of Abraham Lincoln. You can't condemn the great, without also condemning the small. For if you accept the small, then the likelihood of the great occurring is greater, because law has broken down, and greater things become slightly ever so more acceptable. Where do you draw the line? You can't.

Yes, crap will still happen, and I doubt that we saw the last assassination with John Kennedy, or the last attempted assassination with Ronald Reagan, but any Democracy MUST condemn actions, both the small and the great, which seek to do violence. If America is to remain the great nation that it is, then its citizens (That's us) must uphold the values which are "American" in nature, and condemn those which aren't. One such value is the rule of law.
Well, this sounds good, and I would love to agree with you. I think that the rule of law has in fact begun a process of breaking down, the least stable among us are starting to crack, and unfortunately feel they have no further recourse. The current congress and administration sure aren't helping things though you have to grant me that, they are trampling anything and anyone they disagree with, and then showing surprise when crazies push back. Whether it is within our ideals or not is a perfectly fair subject, but at this time we have a severe situation and I think we'll be further tested before things settle down.
 
Well, this sounds good, and I would love to agree with you. I think that the rule of law has in fact begun a process of breaking down, the least stable among us are starting to crack, and unfortunately feel they have no further recourse. The current congress and administration sure aren't helping things though you have to grant me that, they are trampling anything and anyone they disagree with, and then showing surprise when crazies push back. Whether it is within our ideals or not is a perfectly fair subject, but at this time we have a severe situation and I think we'll be further tested before things settle down.

They might feel they have no other recourse, but that still makes them criminals. No excuses - Period. A death threat is a death threat. They deserve serious prison time. I don't care whether it's someone on the right threatening a Democrat, or someone on the left threatening a Republican. When death threats are made, then it is time to take out the trash.
 
They might feel they have no other recourse, but that still makes them criminals. No excuses - Period.
That is true, and I agree in full.
A death threat is a death threat. They deserve serious prison time. I don't care whether it's someone on the right threatening a Democrat, or someone on the left threatening a Republican. When death threats are made, then it is time to take out the trash.
Also true, but with one caviotte, sometimes a death threat isn't truly a death threat but a venting mechanism, although the law certainly can't arbitrarily enforce that based on discretion, but how many times have you told someone "I'll kill you" or some derivative of that just to make a point of how angry you were. Telling a stranger that is stupid, and a crime, but I am just saying let the courts decide. Also, the one not making the threat is the most dangerous one, criminals that announce intent are just too easy.
 
That is true, and I agree in full. Also true, but with one caviotte, sometimes a death threat isn't truly a death threat but a venting mechanism, although the law certainly can't arbitrarily enforce that based on discretion, but how many times have you told someone "I'll kill you" or some derivative of that just to make a point of how angry you were. Telling a stranger that is stupid, and a crime, but I am just saying let the courts decide. Also, the one not making the threat is the most dangerous one, criminals that announce intent are just too easy.

Tell that to the dumbasses who joked about having a bomb, when asked by Customs officials at the airport if they had anything to declare. LOL.
 
Tell that to the dumbasses who joked about having a bomb, when asked by Customs officials at the airport if they had anything to declare. LOL.
Hey, I'm a fan of stupid people learning the hard way, you know that by now.:lol:
 
Cool. Let me tell you all about my DWI. LOL.
I've got one from about eight years ago, it was worse than yours, and more earned. And I fully admit I was stupid.:doh
 
I've got one from about eight years ago, it was worse than yours, and more earned. And I fully admit I was stupid.:doh

How much did yours cost? right now, mine is 12 grand, and by the time I get off probation, and pay my surcharges, it will be about 18 grand. Beat that. LOL.

BTW, mine was earned too, even if it was only 3 beers. LOL.
 
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I think it's American to call congressman and voice strong disapproval with policy or a decision they made. But making death threats isn't American. America is founded on free speech and the right to vote, not the right to threaten and kill congressman that have done wrong. Just fire them with your votes when elections come around.
 
I've got one from about eight years ago, it was worse than yours, and more earned. And I fully admit I was stupid.:doh

How much did yours cost? right now, mine is 12 grand, and by the time I get off probation, and pay my surcharges, it will be about 18 grand. Beat that. LOL.

BTW, mine was earned too, even if it was only 3 beers. LOL.

Im curious what is the limit in both of your states? In New York its .08.
 
Thank god! I thought it was the Reverend Al Green for a second, I just can't see him doing anything bad to anybody.

Look D. I agree that things need to calm down and that the ballot box is the way to take out the trash, but to call it unamerican? C'mon now, this country was founded by people who tarred and feathered tax collectors, dumped tea into a harbor acting like natives, burned down entire areas of loyalists, shot each other over policy disagreements, and hung traitors. I'm not saying we should do this, but it isn't unamerican.

I saw the title and thought it was Rev Green too. For a moment I thought he had another angry girlfriend after him. He had one years ago who through a pan of hot grits on him as he was showering.

As for the moron who made the threat, I don't know if it is unAmerican or just another big mouth idiot we seem to have an overabunance of.
 
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