Page 8 of 57 FirstFirst ... 67891018 ... LastLast
Results 71 to 80 of 570

Thread: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

  1. #71
    Guru
    Crunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last Seen
    12-21-10 @ 05:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,063

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    just imagine if the repubs actually tried to work with the dems on the recent legislation
    They did. and that bi-partisan effort almost succeeded in stopping this POS…. to bad there wasn’t a bigger bi-partisan effort.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

  2. #72
    Guru
    Crunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last Seen
    12-21-10 @ 05:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,063

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    you know, admittedly this is all the way back to the OP, but it occurs to me:

    are democrats really that afraid of this bill that they are now desperate to try to pin blame for it on the GOP?
    Naaaaaaaaa........ it's Bush's fault.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

  3. #73
    Guru
    Crunch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Last Seen
    12-21-10 @ 05:24 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,063

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    WRONG. it was made less liberal because otherwise even Democrats wouldn't vote for it.
    Not necessarily true, there just wouldn't have been enough money in the world to bribe them to vote for it if they hadn't toned it down.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

  4. #74
    Tavern Bartender
    Constitutionalist
    American's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    Virginia
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 10:49 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    76,323

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The topic isn't about whether you personally agree that the healthcare bill is right or wrong. Its about whether the GOP is genuine in their opposition or whether their actions demonstrate otherwise.
    There are plenty of other topics to express your personal like or dislike of the healthcare bill.
    I think there is more to this story than the one article says. There is more to it than just requiring individuals to buy insurance, and I doubt what's in the new law resembles what the GOP would have passed. You don't just come here saying it was a GOP idea for two decades, on top of the fact that this just comes out after over a year of debate on this, and say "oh the GOP wanted this". No, the timing of this is suspicious and no doubt intended to help the Dems in November.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
    "Fly-over" country voted, and The Donald is now POTUS.

  5. #75
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    New health insurance requirement ... was GOP idea - Yahoo! News

    Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it.

    The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.
    ....Conservatives today say that's unacceptable. Not long ago, many of them saw a national mandate as a free-market route to guarantee coverage for all Americans — the answer to liberal ambitions for a government-run entitlement like Medicare. Most experts agree some kind of requirement is needed in a reformed system because health insurance doesn't work if people can put off joining the risk pool until they get sick.

    Any argument that the tactics of the GOP are anything other than political posturing simply to oppose anything that Obama proposes is disengenuous.


    They were for it before they were against it.
    Just more evidence of the hypocrisy so often found in our politics. I would not suggest it only runs one way, but this is clearly an example of it.

  6. #76
    Sage
    misterman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Last Seen
    02-09-12 @ 08:41 AM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    12,913

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think there is more to this story than the one article says. There is more to it than just requiring individuals to buy insurance, and I doubt what's in the new law resembles what the GOP would have passed.
    But many have singled out the mandate as an objection.

  7. #77
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I think there is more to this story than the one article says. There is more to it than just requiring individuals to buy insurance, and I doubt what's in the new law resembles what the GOP would have passed. You don't just come here saying it was a GOP idea for two decades, on top of the fact that this just comes out after over a year of debate on this, and say "oh the GOP wanted this". No, the timing of this is suspicious and no doubt intended to help the Dems in November.
    Probably not exactly like, but that doesn't matter. The objection to the mandate is not because of anything else in the bill, but because of it alone. The cry is for no mandate all under any circumstance. There is really no way explain this outside of disingenuous partisanship.

  8. #78
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Los Angeles, CA
    Last Seen
    02-16-11 @ 08:57 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    36,915
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    New health insurance requirement ... was GOP idea - Yahoo! News

    Republicans were for President Barack Obama's requirement that Americans get health insurance before they were against it.

    The obligation in the new health care law is a Republican idea that's been around at least two decades. It was once trumpeted as an alternative to Bill and Hillary Clinton's failed health care overhaul in the 1990s. These days, Republicans call it government overreach.
    ....Conservatives today say that's unacceptable. Not long ago, many of them saw a national mandate as a free-market route to guarantee coverage for all Americans — the answer to liberal ambitions for a government-run entitlement like Medicare. Most experts agree some kind of requirement is needed in a reformed system because health insurance doesn't work if people can put off joining the risk pool until they get sick.

    Any argument that the tactics of the GOP are anything other than political posturing simply to oppose anything that Obama proposes is disengenuous.


    They were for it before they were against it.
    In order for this to even be remotely relevant, you need to demonstrate something a little better than a difference of opinion across a 20 year spread.

    And whether Republicans agree or disagree with it today or 2 decades ago, it's still a bad idea.

  9. #79
    Sage
    Boo Radley's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Last Seen
    11-22-17 @ 04:22 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    36,858

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    In order for this to even be remotely relevant, you need to demonstrate something a little better than a difference of opinion across a 20 year spread.

    And whether Republicans agree or disagree with it today or 2 decades ago, it's still a bad idea.
    Actually, without the public option, it is the only viable way to do away with insurance companies banning folks with pre-existing conditions. It's not as effective as a universal payer, but it is the only option left to prevent people from being denied insurance because they have a pre-existing condition.

    And no matter when it was, it was a republican idea.

  10. #80
    It's Just Boris.
    Bassman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Location
    West end of the Erie Canal (That's Buffalo, NY for those of you in Rio Linda)
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:26 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    1,699

    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, without the public option, it is the only viable way to do away with insurance companies banning folks with pre-existing conditions. It's not as effective as a universal payer, but it is the only option left to prevent people from being denied insurance because they have a pre-existing condition.

    And no matter when it was, it was a republican idea.
    I see it is impossible for you to understand what "Liabilities" are. How the hell else can insurance companies assess risk??


    11/8/16: A day of great relief for America

Page 8 of 57 FirstFirst ... 67891018 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •