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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    What the hell are you talking about? Obviously you havent been in a high position in the oil industry otherwise you'd know the government subsidizies oil! rofl

    Subsidizing Big Oil (1995) | Union of Concerned Scientists
    Please stop embarrassing yourself and get the facts, I was in upper management in the oil business and I guarantee you that you don't know what you are talking about. That article relates to just about any industry but does it really matter to people like you? What is a subsidy, it is allowing companies to keep more of their own money or are you like most anti business people who believe it is the government's money first? Where it is income taxes, tax credits or anything else, the money comes from the consumer first. I further suggest you find out the royalties oil companies pay to the govt in this country, both state and Federal. You shouldn't be talking about things you do not understand.

    Check out the Federal, State, and local taxes that are on gasoline in this country vs. Europe and you will find out why the price there is more than double here.

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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

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    TX has a part time legislature, no state income tax, economic growth, rising employment, and had a budget surplus until this recession.
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    And they did it without any government subsidies for agriculture or oil or housing or schooling etc
    I'm sure if my state were an oil rich state like TX or AK and recieved billions in oil subsidies we wouldn't have an income tax either. For more details into big oil subsidies, read here.
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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    nevermind, weird link problem
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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm sure if my state were an oil rich state like TX or AK and recieved billions in oil subsidies we wouldn't have an income tax either. For more details into big oil subsidies, read here.
    Take a look at our property taxes, sales taxes, sin taxes, etc.

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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm sure if my state were an oil rich state like TX or AK and recieved billions in oil subsidies we wouldn't have an income tax either. For more details into big oil subsidies, read here.
    There is plenty of oil off the coasts of this country that the states refuse to touch. This is another issue you do not understand yet try to be an expert on. Taxes, royalties, dry holes consume a lot of oil company profits but that escapes those who do not understand business. You seem to fit into that category.

    For some reason profits are a dirty word in the liberal language but govt. spending 3.8 trillion dollars isn't. No wonder liberals are called loons.

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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Take a look at our property taxes, sales taxes, sin taxes, etc.
    You control where you live, what you buy, and the sins that you participate in but I forgot that is someone else's fault,

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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is plenty of oil off the coasts of this country that the states refuse to touch. This is another issue you do not understand yet try to be an expert on. Taxes, royalties, dry holes consume a lot of oil company profits but that escapes those who do not understand business. You seem to fit into that category.

    For some reason profits are a dirty word in the liberal language but govt. spending 3.8 trillion dollars isn't. No wonder liberals are called loons.
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    We aren't talking profits. We are talking subsidies
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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Try it now...

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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
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    We aren't talking profits. We are talking subsidies
    What is a subsidy? Answer the question and why does it bother you that companies keep more of what they make? Do you realize that oil companies pay royalties on the product they pull out of the ground, pay state, federal, and local taxes as do all the employees they hire. Profit isn't a bad word and when you point out lost tax revenue you are giving approval on all that govt. spending while ignoring the taxes that are collected from employees and property of those oil companies.

    It really is hard dealing with people who haven't a clue how business works and view profits as bad but taxes good.

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    Re: New health insurance requirement.....was a GOP idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    There is plenty of oil off the coasts of this country that the states refuse to touch. This is another issue you do not understand yet try to be an expert on. Taxes, royalties, dry holes consume a lot of oil company profits but that escapes those who do not understand business. You seem to fit into that category.

    For some reason profits are a dirty word in the liberal language but govt. spending 3.8 trillion dollars isn't. No wonder liberals are called loons.
    Again, why do you assume that just because I disagree with you on certain points that automatically makes me a liberal? You seem to take this same point of view with anyone who doesn't share your point of view. That's very narrow-minded.

    And as I've said time and time again, I have no problem whatsoever with anyone in this country making money...tons of it if they are fortunate enough to be so blessed. My problem comes with people who think like you do who see no place in government to render aid to its citizens under ANY circumstances. I just don't understand how people can be so coarse.

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