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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ummm...because wether they agree or disagree with the principle OF the stimulus dollars, once the plan was passed, their constituents are most surely PAYING for it...so they SHOULD seek those dollars. Unless you want to allow opt out states to also have zero fiscal responsibility for the bailout programs.
    I agree - but I don't have any sympathy for the GOP representatives getting less for their districts. If they are going to go out there and yell and scream about the stimulus law, and run ads about how they didn't vote for it (or their opponent did) they shouldn't get the full benefit.
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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ummm...because wether they agree or disagree with the principle OF the stimulus dollars, once the plan was passed, their constituents are most surely PAYING for it...so they SHOULD seek those dollars. Unless you want to allow opt out states to also have zero fiscal responsibility for the bailout programs.
    Like I said..

    .. no REAL principles...

    ... just false bravado and attempts to bully.

    And the Teabagged eat it up.

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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by NoJingoLingo View Post
    Yes but it's always good to remind them that they didn't want the money they are going to spend to help them.
    Far better to point out that they not only DIDNT get the results they wanted, they also didnt get stimulus dollars AND still have to pay for those that do???

    Life hands you lemons and tells you that you HAVE to buy them whether you like it or not, then you either bitch and moan about it, throw them away, or make a concoction with something strong...

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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Like I said..

    .. no REAL principles...

    ... just false bravado and attempts to bully.

    And the Teabagged eat it up.
    I see...REAL principle would say...go ahead...TAKE our money...and add it to the national debt...and take the money that you WOULD have used here and give THAT to someone else (because you know damn good and well they wouldnt NOT spent it) and screw your own constituents who would then be out twice?

    Yeah...that would be a responsible position for an elected official. And well thought out too.

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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    I agree - but I don't have any sympathy for the GOP representatives getting less for their districts. If they are going to go out there and yell and scream about the stimulus law, and run ads about how they didn't vote for it (or their opponent did) they shouldn't get the full benefit.
    Frankly I dont think its about sympathy. I think everyone understands the political game. If Conservatives were bribing government officials for their votes like liberals did, liberals would be in an uproar. EVERYONE is purely partisan.

    Personally? I think both sides are corrupt. We have a 13.5 trillion dollar debt that will continue to climb unless both parties STOP spending money like its not theirs. Because...oh yeah...its NOT theirs.

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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Frankly I dont think its about sympathy. I think everyone understands the political game. If Conservatives were bribing government officials for their votes like liberals did, liberals would be in an uproar.
    And conservatives would blow it off and say they have no sympathy. And back and forth it goes.

    EVERYONE is purely partisan.
    Not me.

    Personally? I think both sides are corrupt. We have a 13.5 trillion dollar debt that will continue to climb unless both parties STOP spending money like its not theirs. Because...oh yeah...its NOT theirs.
    Okay, so you and I are the only non-partisan people on the planet. We should feel so good about ourselves.

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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    It's not a choice. Republican politicians and red states taking money is mandatory. It's just like the first stimulus, when certain states like South Carolina and Texas initially refused forced stimulus money because it came with a high-risk rate of interest, and they didn't want to be indebted to Washington when the stimulus money was meant for a purpose that did not help the states one bit.

    That's the true crime happening here, not the partisan bickering and finger-pointing.

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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    It's not a choice. Republican politicians and red states taking money is mandatory. It's just like the first stimulus, when certain states like South Carolina and Texas initially refused forced stimulus money because it came with a high-risk rate of interest, and they didn't want to be indebted to Washington when the stimulus money was meant for a purpose that did not help the states one bit.
    Well then, if it is mandatory as you claim, it's not like the first stimulus, which apparently wasn't.

    There are certainly some optional parts of this stimulus. Much of it involves grants that require applications.

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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Since all Congressional districts have the same # of people, your points are irrelevant. The districts with higher population densities are also smaller in area. While it's true that Democrats have more seats and represent more people, the ratio isn't 2:1.

    OTOH, I'm not sure that this is unusual. When the Republicans controlled the Congress and the White House, you might've found the same thing.
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    Re: Politics: Democratic Stimulus Haul is Almost Double Republicans

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    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Not quite. That's only true within each state. The total population of a state is divided by the number of seats for that state. They don't all divide the same way. They range from about 500,000 to 900,000 people per district.
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