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    Apparently there are consequences for speaking against Republicans, Frum out.

    After coming out with a highly critical op/ed piece last weekend, David Frum has lost his job at AEI.


    David Frum Out At Conservative Think Tank - The Two-Way - Breaking News, Analysis Blog : NPR

    As of Thursday, Mr. Frum had become a former fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.

    Mr. Frum said he was taken out to lunch by the president of the organization, Arthur C. Brooks. He said Mr. Brooks told him the institute valued a diversity of opinion, and welcomed that one of its scholars had become such a high-profile critic of Republican legislative leaders. Mr. Frum, who has been with the institute since 2003, said that he was asked if he would considering being associated with the institute on a nonsalaried basis.

    Mr. Frum declined.

    "Does it have anything to do with what would be the most obvious explanation of what happened?" he said in an interview after his lunch. "I don't know. That's not what they say."

    Asked if he believed that explanation, Mr. Frum responded, "I'm not going to say that they're not telling the truth."

    Update: Mr. Brooks later issued a written statement confirming Mr. Frum's departure, but declining to say what had happened. "While A.E.I. makes it a practice not to discuss personnel matters, I can say that David Frum is an original thinker and a friend to many at A.E.I.," his statement said.
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    Re: Apparently there are consequences for speaking against Republicans, Frum out.

    Poor Frum

    He becomes an American citizen and gets kicked out of the AEI
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    Frum Forced Out at Conservative Institute

    Frum Forced Out at Conservative Institute

    Updated: Over the past week, David Frum, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative research organization, has emerged as one of the leading critics of the way Republicans dealt with President Obama’s health care bill.

    David Frum during a live taping of “Meet the Press” in March in Washington.
    The party, Mr. Frum said, put politics over policy in trying to damage Mr. Obama’s agenda, and lost both the political battle and the ability to influence a key piece of legislation. In a column Mr. Frum posted at the FrumForum, he wrote that the House passage of the health care bill had become the Republicans’ “Waterloo,” rather than Mr. Obama’s, as a leading G.O.P. senator had once warned.
    It's sad that the reasoned voices are so few in the GOP. The once Grand Ol Party...

    Here's some quotes from Frum's Forum:

    A huge part of the blame for today’s disaster attaches to conservatives and Republicans ourselves.

    At the beginning of this process we made a strategic decision: unlike, say, Democrats in 2001 when President Bush proposed his first tax cut, we would make no deal with the administration. No negotiations, no compromise, nothing. We were going for all the marbles. This would be Obama’s Waterloo – just as healthcare was Clinton’s in 1994.

    Only, the hardliners overlooked a few key facts: Obama was elected with 53% of the vote, not Clinton’s 42%. The liberal block within the Democratic congressional caucus is bigger and stronger than it was in 1993-94. And of course the Democrats also remember their history, and also remember the consequences of their 1994 failure.

    This time, when we went for all the marbles, we ended with none.

    Could a deal have been reached? Who knows? But we do know that the gap between this plan and traditional Republican ideas is not very big. The Obama plan has a broad family resemblance to Mitt Romney’s Massachusetts plan. It builds on ideas developed at the Heritage Foundation in the early 1990s that formed the basis for Republican counter-proposals to Clintoncare in 1993-1994.
    Just like Clinton, Obama is stealing the Republican's best ideas and it pisses them off so much they vote "no" something originated with the Heritage Foundation... Strange Bedfellows indeed.

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    Re: Frum Forced Out at Conservative Institute

    So basically to you, a "good" Conservative kowtows to the Left?? Sorry, but this pig don't fly.


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    Re: Frum Forced Out at Conservative Institute

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    So basically to you, a "good" Conservative kowtows to the Left?? Sorry, but this pig don't fly.
    No...if you bothered to read the article you would see that the point is that Republicans are arguing against the very things that they helped establish...
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    Re: Apparently there are consequences for speaking against Republicans, Frum out.

    If a fellow at the Urban Institute or an employee at Moveon wrote several articles criticizing Obama as a socialist and attacking the Democratic stance on health care, do you think he would be employed for very long?
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    Re: Apparently there are consequences for speaking against Republicans, Frum out.

    If a fellow at the Urban Institute or an employee at Moveon wrote several articles criticizing Obama as a socialist and attacking the Democratic stance on health care, do you think he would be employed for very long?
    That isn't comparable to what Frum did. He stated that the Republican strategy of refusing to deal when it comes to health care brought a worse outcome in end. His blame fell upon the shoulders of the media organizations who stirred up the heated rhetoric. He firmly stood against the passing of the health care bill, he simply disagreed with the tactics used to fight it. He remains loyal to conservative ideals, and is being persecuted because he thinks the current strategy isn't helping promote those ideals.

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    Re: Apparently there are consequences for speaking against Republicans, Frum out.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    That isn't comparable to what Frum did. He stated that the Republican strategy of refusing to deal when it comes to health care brought a worse outcome in end. His blame fell upon the shoulders of the media organizations who stirred up the heated rhetoric. He firmly stood against the passing of the health care bill, he simply disagreed with the tactics used to fight it. He remains loyal to conservative ideals, and is being persecuted because he thinks the current strategy isn't helping promote those ideals.
    I think the distinction about disagreement on strategy vs disagreement on policy is an important one that RightinNYC missed. The Republican insistence on monolithic thought will probably not serve them well. It reminds me of the arrogance of the Bay Area liberals on the Democratic side: Fast becoming a group of educated but entirely unsophisticated thinkers on the left.

    The difference between the Rs and Ds right now is that with the Rs, it seems to be a huge movement in the party as a whole. Insistence on purity of thought on strategy seems symptomatic of that, to me.

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    Re: Frum Forced Out at Conservative Institute

    I only have one thing to say. Frum was right.
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    Re: Frum Forced Out at Conservative Institute

    Quote Originally Posted by Bassman View Post
    So basically to you, a "good" Conservative kowtows to the Left?? Sorry, but this pig don't fly.
    No, a conservative not drinking the far-right cool-aide kowtowing to partisan retards at Fox News is in the minority... of the GOP.

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