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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Most of the bill doesn't even take effect for 4 years. It's not like anyone is suddenly going to be missing something if it gets repealed in a year.
    Not so fast.


    Voters will get their first taste of the benefits of health care reform only a few short weeks before the November midterm elections.

    They won’t have to swallow most of the bitter pills until much later — well after President Barack Obama faces voters again in 2012.

    Match the effective dates of key reform provisions against the election calendar, and it becomes clear that Democrats were as focused on writing a legislative overhaul of the health care system as they were on devising a political road map for selling it to voters.

    The landmark health legislation the president will sign into law Tuesday, and an accompanying package of fixes still moving through the Senate, go further than previous incarnations of the bill to front-load the gain and push back the pain.
    Timing right for Democrats' midterm election hopes - Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Done and done.

    220-207

    End of the Thread.


    • Reductions in the penalty for individuals who fail to obtain insurance so that by 2016, individuals who do not have insurance would be fined $695 a year.
    • Penalties for employers whose employees receive subsidies in the new exchanges, rather than buying insurance through the employer.
    • Limits on the amount of money a low-income person or household would be required to pay out-of-pocket for health care.
    • A one-time, $250 rebate to Medicare beneficiaries who fall into the “doughnut hole” during 2010, which will be phased out during the next decade.
    • Additional Medicare reimbursements during 2010 to physicians with lower-than-average practice costs.
    • More time for insurance companies to comply with the new regulations.
    • Scale back on the tax on high benefits and pushing the effective date on the tax to 2018.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Ok...and?

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Done and done.

    220-207

    End of the Thread.


    • Reductions in the penalty for individuals who fail to obtain insurance so that by 2016, individuals who do not have insurance would be fined $695 a year.
    • Penalties for employers whose employees receive subsidies in the new exchanges, rather than buying insurance through the employer.
    • Limits on the amount of money a low-income person or household would be required to pay out-of-pocket for health care.
    • A one-time, $250 rebate to Medicare beneficiaries who fall into the “doughnut hole” during 2010, which will be phased out during the next decade.
    • Additional Medicare reimbursements during 2010 to physicians with lower-than-average practice costs.
    • More time for insurance companies to comply with the new regulations.
    • Scale back on the tax on high benefits and pushing the effective date on the tax to 2018.
    No, not end of thread. That simply means that there is more time for the Republicans to overturn most of this crap bill before it ever takes effect.

    All this democrat hand-wringing and smug chortling is gonna turn to crying before it's over with.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Ok...and?
    And you're wrong.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    And you're wrong.
    Oh well since you ****ing say so, that just changes everything.

    No, I am not wrong.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Which means that student loan should be included because...?



    You seem to be operating from the perspective that only the passage of legislation can benefit from the country. That's the problem. From the Republican perspective, the status quo is preferable to the proposal that the Dems have put forward. Accordingly, it's entirely sensible for them to oppose the proposal.
    I'm not disagreeing with that...but let's not kid ourselves. Anyone who follows politics knows that these obstuctionist tactics are nothing more than political posturing. THAT is not unique to the Republicans in anyway, the Democrats are guilty of doing the same thing. However, yes...it is "sensible" for them to oppose the proposal. What is not sensible is pretending that it is any more than political grandstanding and pretending that it is actually going to accomplish anything.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    If Republicans had spent 1% of the energy that they are using fighting this bill, attempting to participate in finding a solution to the healthcare problems, then perhaps they wouldn't have to be spending the remaining 99% stomping their feet.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Oh well since you ****ing say so, that just changes everything.

    No, I am not wrong.
    Yes, you are, not because I say so, because the article I posted does. Try reading it.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Yes, you are, not because I say so, because the article I posted does. Try reading it.
    I did. Nothing in the article indicates that I am wrong. Did you have anything to add other than your proclomations or are you just gonna blab on without any substantial contribution again?

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