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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Correct. Like I said, this is insanely moderate reform. It's not a coincidence that conservative campaigns and votes are litered with corporate influence to keep the status quo.
    Health Services/HMOs: Top Contributors to Federal Candidates and Parties | OpenSecrets

    67-32 in favor of Dems this cycle. 11 of the top 15 recipients are Dems, including Reid, Schumer, Waxman, Rangel, Specter, and Blanche.
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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    ok, what does this prove?
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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    It'll be over soon in the Senate, as early as 2 pm et today¹, but, it will be going back to the House.
    that doesn't mean that it will be "over" in the Senate soon; it means it hasn't even started in the Senate yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Why the hell is "pell grants" in a health care bill??
    it's called "no one is going to even read this thing, or care about anything that's in it other than the healthcare provisions, so we can use it to take over whatever else we like". like, for example, higher education.

    you know, because the federal government has done such a wonderful job with primary and secondary education that they need more influence in the one decent educational establishment we have left.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    Difference being PAC's more involved this cycle and NOT individual interest/lobbying
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    64-36 Dem advantage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n
    Yes, because the health care system is broken and HEALTH SERVICES are on the side of the democrats. Insurance is another entire monster
    No, it's across the board.

    Health professionals: 65-35 Dems
    Health services/HMOs (which includes insurers): 65-34 Dems
    Hospitals/Nursing Homes: 70-30 Dems
    Pharma: 60-40 Dems

    Look, you can move the goalposts all you want, but the fact is that it's the Dems who are overwhemlingly the recipients of corporate largess this time, particularly from the health industry.
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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3n View Post
    This bill is only unpopular for conservatives.
    if you count "independents" as "conservatives", then yes.

    Among partisans, the president’s party faithful are alone in supporting the proposed reforms. Sixty-six percent of Democrats favor them, while 53 percent of independents and 88 percent of Republicans oppose them.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Oh yes lets use a heavily partisan news outlet to support a partisan argument
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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Not sure if such a benefit reconciles the health insurance industry to losing so much control over the economic processes of their market. Isn't near complete discretion when it comes to raising premiums more preferable to a company than the numerous stipulations of the reform bill?
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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    How many new bribes will it take to be passed?
    The real question is how many more silly games will the party of NO play?
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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The real question is how many more silly games will the party of NO play?
    Well before that can be answered, I guess we need to know who this mythical "Party of No" is and how they influence the republicans and democrats in congress now.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

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    You think it's clever to use wounded veterans as a political ploy?
    sure do

    clever, normal and fair

    it's called p-o-l-i-t-i-c-s

    What would you be saying if the Democrats did something like that?
    i'd say we need to clean up our act so opponents can't say such things about us

    because the things our opponents would be saying, in this case, would be true

    I'm guessing you'd be disgusted by it.
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