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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    They wont. See a young guy working for me wont spend all that money on helthcare except for a catastrophy plan, while another may purchase a cadillac plan with it. They have the choice.....


    NOW, it seems I got to find a plan for these guys where it doesnt cost me any more.


    Some may get more than they need/want others far less....


    Its rather pathetic that this provision is in the bill.
    At my last job in Alaska, we were given an insurance stipend to do with as we pleased. In addition, we were given AFLAC coverage, paid for by the company, in the event we were sick enough to be out of work.

    Of the seven of us, 4 of the guys just stuck their stipends in an account designated for health care spending, I bought a standard blue cross plan and only had to add 60 a month to cover the difference, and two others bought their plans through CIGNA or something...but they had I guess what is now called a cadillac plan.

    That kind of freedom to choose what you need from the market is what is missing from this bill and exactly why most people don't support it.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    At my last job in Alaska, we were given an insurance stipend to do with as we pleased. In addition, we were given AFLAC coverage, paid for by the company, in the event we were sick enough to be out of work.

    Of the seven of us, 4 of the guys just stuck their stipends in an account designated for health care spending, I bought a standard blue cross plan and only had to add 60 a month to cover the difference, and two others bought their plans through CIGNA or something...but they had I guess what is now called a cadillac plan.

    That kind of freedom to choose what you need from the market is what is missing from this bill and exactly why most people don't support it.
    Um, you can choose whatever you want under this law. Probably more than when you get employer-sponsored insurance.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Um, you can choose whatever you want under this law. Probably more than when you get employer-sponsored insurance.
    Did you even read the bill and think about the impact it has on business models like Rev is referencing? No? Of course not.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Did you even read the bill and think about the impact it has on business models like Rev is referencing? No? Of course not.
    Which bill you talking about now?

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Which bill you talking about now?
    You're just gonna milk that for every tiny drop instead of debating for the next week, huh?

    I looked at the wrong bill draft number one time. I confessed this. I am glad you are getting so much mileage out of such a small mistake. That still does nothing to aid you in making an argument as I was still referencing the exact same text despite the difference in drafts.

    Resume your smug chortling and undeserved sense of satisfaction.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is going to piss my employees off. We provide them with a "medcal allowance" to get health insuance on thier own....


    Now I am going to b penalized for this? nope. The will get whatever plan we can get for what we are paying now..... Wont be nearly as good for most of them.
    WTF??! That's what my employer does. I get a $3500 annual amount to use as I please for health insurance. Now I'm going to be penalized for my employer giving me an annual stipend for insurance?

    Jesus ****ing christ these ****tards piss me off. I just don't understand how anyone with a brain who enjoys personal choice and freedom can POSSIBLY find this bill a ****ing good thing. I want to go bitch slap idiots.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You're just gonna milk that for every tiny drop instead of debating for the next week, huh?

    I looked at the wrong bill draft number one time. I confessed this. I am glad you are getting so much mileage out of such a small mistake. That still does nothing to aid you in making an argument as I was still referencing the exact same text despite the difference in drafts.

    Resume your smug chortling and undeserved sense of satisfaction.
    And you combined your simple, honest mistake with heaps of arrogant, obnoxious trash talk. You deserve what you get.

    And then I begged you to give me the exact citation, and/or the language, again. And you ran off.

    Show me the death panel. It's your chance to stick it to me, right here in public. Just show it to me.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    WTF??! That's what my employer does. I get a $3500 annual amount to use as I please for health insurance. Now I'm going to be penalized for my employer giving me an annual stipend for insurance?

    Jesus ****ing christ these ****tards piss me off. I just don't understand how anyone with a brain who enjoys personal choice and freedom can POSSIBLY find this bill a ****ing good thing. I want to go bitch slap idiots.
    NO. That's NOT how it works.

    Jesus, people, first you believe every idiotic thing the teabaggers said, and now you're coming up with new stupid rumors to get upset about?

    Calm down and go read up on this before you all freak out. Some vague notes on a message board is not enough information.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    And you combined your simple, honest mistake with heaps of arrogant, obnoxious trash talk. You deserve what you get.

    And then I begged you to give me the exact citation, and/or the language, again. And you ran off.

    Show me the death panel. It's your chance to stick it to me, right here in public. Just show it to me.
    I already told you. The text never changed. You want to keep smugly wagging your fingers in your ears over a difference in draft number despite the text being exactly the same from one to the next.

    I already made my argument. Your rebuttal has been some nonsense about draft numbers and not a rebuttal of the text cited. Beg till you are blue in the face but don't expect me to cave to your dishonest antics and your whining and crying about what a big meanie I am. That's not debate. That's just you whining and crying.

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    Re: BREAKING -- Reconciliation bill will have to go back to the House

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    NO. That's NOT how it works.

    Jesus, people, first you believe every idiotic thing the teabaggers said, and now you're coming up with new stupid rumors to get upset about?

    Calm down and go read up on this before you all freak out. Some vague notes on a message board is not enough information.
    That's exactly how it works per the bill. Read it.

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