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    Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Hot Air Blog Archive Oh, by the way, O-Care lets states opt out of the individual mandate

    From HuffPo:

    It’s called the “Empowering States to be Innovative” amendment. And it would, quite literally, give states the right to set up their own health care system — with or without an individual mandate or, for that matter, with or without a public option — provided that, as Wyden puts it, “they can meet the coverage requirements of the bill.”
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    I went looking on Google to find out how Ed and I could have missed this, and it turns out we didn’t. Everyone missed it. There were precisely two pages of results for “Empowering States to be Innovative” when I searched earlier this afternoon; one of the most comprehensive treatments of the subject, posted six months ago, was this piece, which devoted a paragraph to it. Good work, media. So which “coverage requirements” would a state have to meet to qualify for an O-Care waiver? Here’s the relevant section from the Senate bill; skip ahead to page 212.
    From the bill:

    (A) will provide coverage that is at least as comprehensive as the coverage defined in section 1302(b) and offered through Exchanges established under this title as certified by Office of the Actuary of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services based on sufficient data from the State and from comparable States about their experience with programs created by this Act and the provisions of this Act that would be waived;

    (B) will provide coverage and cost sharing protections against excessive out-of-pocket spending that are at least as affordable as the provisions of this title would provide;

    (C) will provide coverage to at least a comparable number of its residents as the provisions of this title would provide; and

    (D) will not increase the Federal deficit.

    It's unlikely that states will actually be deemed to have met the requirements and get to opt out, but the fact that this wasn't played up for political points one bit, when so much attention was given to the idea of being able to opt out, is a pretty hilarious piece of evidence that nobody - in Congress or otherwise - actually read through the bill, which is longer than the last two Harry Potter books combined.

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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Hot Air Blog Archive Oh, by the way, O-Care lets states opt out of the individual mandate

    It's unlikely that states will actually be deemed to have met the requirements and get to opt out, but the fact that this wasn't played up for political points one bit, when so much attention was given to the idea of being able to opt out, is a pretty hilarious piece of evidence that nobody - in Congress or otherwise - actually read through the bill, which is longer than the last two Harry Potter books combined.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Hot Air Blog Archive Oh, by the way, O-Care lets states opt out of the individual mandate



    It's unlikely that states will actually be deemed to have met the requirements and get to opt out, but the fact that this wasn't played up for political points one bit, when so much attention was given to the idea of being able to opt out, is a pretty hilarious piece of evidence that nobody - in Congress or otherwise - actually read through the bill, which is longer than the last two Harry Potter books combined.
    I think your conclusion is faulty. Neither side had a lot of interest in talking up this part of the bill. It's a right-leaning portion of the bill. Democrats don't want to talk up the right-leaning parts because it's a compromise they made (or tried to make) with the Republicans and right-leaning Democrats. The Republicans don't want to talk up that part of the bill because, well, they were standing in a unified bloc against the bill and talking up state opt-outs wouldn't help them get the public in their court.
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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    GOOOH !.. jackasses!
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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Wait until the maroons see the $140 deduction from every pay check because of this PHONY Health Plan.

    I hope no one is claiming surprise to find that no one not one single person on either side of the isle read this anti-American Obamination.

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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Hot Air Blog Archive Oh, by the way, O-Care lets states opt out of the individual mandate

    From HuffPo:



    From HotAir:



    From the bill:




    It's unlikely that states will actually be deemed to have met the requirements and get to opt out, but the fact that this wasn't played up for political points one bit, when so much attention was given to the idea of being able to opt out, is a pretty hilarious piece of evidence that nobody - in Congress or otherwise - actually read through the bill, which is longer than the last two Harry Potter books combined.
    I'm not surprised, I don't think they read the vast majority of the bills they pass.
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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    which is longer than the last two Harry Potter books combined.
    Misconception. It may have more pages then the Harry Potter Books, but it has a much larger font, and it has much more space on the pages that are just blank. In number of words, it doesn't even come close to half a Harry Potter book.

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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Misconception. It may have more pages then the Harry Potter Books, but it has a much larger font, and it has much more space on the pages that are just blank. In number of words, it doesn't even come close to half a Harry Potter book.
    The health care bill is between 384,000 and 411,000 words:
    PolitiFact | Hatch says Senate health care bill is longer than 'War and Peace'

    The last two Harry Potter books are 167,000 and 198,000 words, respectively:
    Harry Potter-Word count? - Yahoo! Answers

    So yes, it does. In fact, it probably is longer than the longest two Harry Potters combined.
    Last edited by Dav; 03-26-10 at 08:06 PM.

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    Re: Confirmed: Nobody Read the Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    The health care bill is between 384,000 and 411,000 word:
    PolitiFact | Hatch says Senate health care bill is longer than 'War and Peace'

    The last two Harry Potter books are 167,000 and 198,000 words, respectively:
    Harry Potter-Word count? - Yahoo! Answers

    So yes, it does. In fact, it probably is longer than the longest two Harry Potters combined.
    It didn't seem that long when I read it. I do confess to just glossing through some of the thicker language, though.

    I don't see how anyone can fully understand this beast.

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