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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Your idea of cooperation and bi-partisanship is really called capitulation..... just a thought for you...... there was bi-partisanship in this health care legislation..... in opposition to it.
    I think this is about the 14th time you said this...
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The party of NO hasn't made any effort at cooperation for over a year. Why would McCain think that anyone would expect otherwise.

    The GOP has a strategy to oppose everything and hope that things do not improve so that they can point to their unanimous opposition to Obama as a reason to vote for the GOP.

    Its a dangerous political game that the GOP is playing and it could reap big dividends for them. However, it could backfire as well.

    But don't let anyone kid themselves. The Party of No has made it clear that they have no intent to cooperate or in good faith negotiate. Its not part of their strategy.
    So when the tables were turned, were you labeling the Democrats as the party of no? Do you think they were unjustified in their actions? Do you think Bush was right to paint them as obstructionists?
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    So when the tables were turned, were you labeling the Democrats as the party of no? Do you think they were unjustified in their actions? Do you think Bush was right to paint them as obstructionists?
    The Democrats were obstructionists as well...especially in blocking confirmation of judges.
    However, the Democratic party never stood in unanimous opposition to everything that Bush tried to do. In fact, much to my dismay, they pretty much capitulated and gave him everything that he wanted.
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The Democrats were obstructionists as well...especially in blocking confirmation of judges.
    However, the Democratic party never stood in unanimous opposition to everything that Bush tried to do. In fact, much to my dismay, they pretty much capitulated and gave him everything that he wanted.
    Well that's because democrats don't have the balls or the cohesion that Republicans do.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well that's because democrats don't have the balls or the cohesion that Republicans do.
    I agree 100%. The Democrats could learn something from the Republicans and grow a spine. Standing in opposition is good. However, when it is on every single issue you lose credibility and simply become the party of NO.

    The Republicans would garner a little more respect if they would pick and choose their battles rather than simply opposing everything.
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Well that's because democrats don't have the balls or the cohesion that Republicans do.
    "Cohesion" is key. Self-described liberals make up only 20-25% of the country, as opposed to 40% for conservatives. So the Democratic Party has to be much broader in ideology than the Republicans have to be... and so it's much harder for them to stand together so often.

    The talk about balls is silly. If Democrats had balls, they'd lose every election.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    "Cohesion" is key. Self-described liberals make up only 20-25% of the country, as opposed to 40% for conservatives. So the Democratic Party has to be much broader in ideology than the Republicans have to be... and so it's much harder for them to stand together so often.

    The talk about balls is silly. If Democrats had balls, they'd lose every election.
    I doubt seriously that 40% of the country is conservative or that 25% of the Country is liberal.

    So often people put labels or accept labels without any coherent understanding of what the label applies to.

    This country fluctuates back and forth depending upon who is in power.

    If the government gets too conservative, the electorate pushes back...if the government gets too liberal the electorate pushes the other way.

    The vast majority of this country operate from the middle, some left leaning, some right-leaning, but outside of the political spectrum very little of the country is liberal or conservative.
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I agree 100%. The Democrats could learn something from the Republicans and grow a spine. Standing in opposition is good. However, when it is on every single issue you lose credibility and simply become the party of NO.

    The Republicans would garner a little more respect if they would pick and choose their battles rather than simply opposing everything.
    If only.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I doubt seriously that 40% of the country is conservative or that 25% of the Country is liberal.
    25% was rounding up:

    ?Conservatives? Are Single-Largest Ideological Group

    Now, you could argue that many people misuse those labels, but I don't see why that would apply more to one side than to the other.

    Note, however, how stable the numbers are. The fluctuations are very slight.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Democrats did jack **** to "invite" Republicans to share ideas. They negotiated the bill among themselves, behind closed doors, and jammed it down our throats because they have the majority. That is not actions of the party of compromise. I don't blame the republicans at all. I would make sure to block the doc fix and expose the lack of a comprehensive healthcare bill.

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