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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You can thank Obama for that. One of the few words from his mouth during his campaign platform, other than "hope" and "change", was talking about ending bipartisanship. The irony is that this is the most polarized Congress ever, by far. Hell, even the Contract with America has a grass-roots Democratic support.

    As Gina hinted on, though, this really was a partial ball-drop for the Republicans who had ample amount of time to adjust health care in the country. When I saw a few GOP pundits talk about "oh we had no problem with A B and C, it was X Y and Z that ruins everything", I think to myself that A B and C weren't exactly important in the past - just now, when it's a power play.
    But there was bi-partisanship in this health Care legislation......... in opposition to it.

    Give Barry credit where credit is due.
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Look at this comment again. Think about Scott Brown, and the circumstances under which he became Senator. Now think about it harder.
    There was an election. He won. End of story.

    If you have some other point to make, please do.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    No, no...they are serving me quite well, thank you. The only price I see is the cost of allowing this turd from the democrats to go through.

    You're kidding, right? So it wasn't democrats trying to call the war in Iraq a loss at every turn just to smear Republican victory? Wow, you sure do have a selective memory when it comes to "stunts".
    They allowed a "turd" rather than accepting the numerous invitations they were given to join in shaping the legislation.

    They made no serious effort to shape policy. A pamphlet is not a plan.

    So you got what they allowed and if that is a "turd", you can thank them.


    No I don't. Of course Democrats vociferously objected to the war in Iraq and I won't rehash the whys and wherefores so we may stick to the topic. They did, but the war was funded. The Democrats engaged in the process to influence where they could and it was done.

    Smearing, does not impede the process. You're saying they should sabotage. That's more than smearing.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    It's the next step toward becoming the party of ideas again. They have the impulse, but now we will wait and see how long it takes them to provide ideas of their own.

    The usual pendulum swing of party politics, folks
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    They allowed a "turd" rather than accepting the numerous invitations they were given to join in shaping the legislation.

    They made no serious effort to shape policy. A pamphlet is not a plan.

    So you got what they allowed and if that is a "turd", you can thank them.


    No I don't. Of course Democrats vociferously objected to the war in Iraq and I won't rehash the whys and wherefores so we may stick to the topic. They did, but the war was funded. The Democrats engaged in the process to influence where they could and it was done.

    Smearing, does not impede the process. You're saying they should sabotage. That's more than smearing.
    (CNSNews.com) – President Barack Obama and Democrats in Congress -- while pushing their own health care overhauls -- have criticized Republicans as offering only opposition and no ideas for reform, but the GOP, despite the lack of media attention, has introduced three health care bills.

    The three Republican bills total almost 400 pages and have been on the table since May and June.
    CNSNews.com - Republicans Have Offered Three Alternative Health Care Reform Bills

    The web site has the text of all 3 proposals if you care to correct your talking points.. if not, carry on.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    The party of NO hasn't made any effort at cooperation for over a year. Why would McCain think that anyone would expect otherwise.

    The GOP has a strategy to oppose everything and hope that things do not improve so that they can point to their unanimous opposition to Obama as a reason to vote for the GOP.

    Its a dangerous political game that the GOP is playing and it could reap big dividends for them. However, it could backfire as well.

    But don't let anyone kid themselves. The Party of No has made it clear that they have no intent to cooperate or in good faith negotiate. Its not part of their strategy.
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    They allowed a "turd" rather than accepting the numerous invitations they were given to join in shaping the legislation.
    They didn't "allow". The Republicans opposed it every step of the way.

    They made no serious effort to shape policy. A pamphlet is not a plan.
    That is a patently false representation of their contributions.

    So you got what they allowed and if that is a "turd", you can thank them.
    No, you can thank the democrats for pushing crap legislation through.

    No I don't. Of course Democrats vociferously objected to the war in Iraq and I won't rehash the whys and wherefores so we may stick to the topic. They did, but the war was funded. The Democrats engaged in the process to influence where they could and it was done.
    By constantly crying defeat. But let's not let facts get in the way of your rant.

    Smearing, does not impede the process. You're saying they should sabotage. That's more than smearing.
    Yes, they should sabotage, poison, impede, smear, anything it takes to stop this turd from being pushed on us by the democrats.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It's the next step toward becoming the party of ideas again. They have the impulse, but now we will wait and see how long it takes them to provide ideas of their own.

    The usual pendulum swing of party politics, folks
    Do you people believe everything the MSM tells you? Have any of you ever thought to just do a quick Google search before showing your bias and ignorance?

    Republicans’ Common-Sense Reforms Will LOWER HEALTH CARE COSTS
    Americans want a step-by-step, common-sense approach to health care reform, not Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s costly, 1,990-page government takeover of our nation’s health care system. Republicans’ alternative solution focuses on lowering health care premiums for families and small businesses, increasing access to affordable, high-quality care, and promoting healthier lifestyles – without adding to the crushing debt Washington has placed on our children and grandchildren. Following are the key elements of Republicans’ alternative plan:
    • Lowering health care premiums. The GOP plan will lower health care premiums for American families and small businesses, addressing Americans’ number-one priority for health care reform.
    • Establishing Universal Access Programs to guarantee access to affordable health care for those with pre-existing conditions. The GOP plan creates Universal Access Programs that expand and reform high-risk pools and reinsurance programs to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of pre-existing conditions or past illnesses, have access to affordable care – while lowering costs for all Americans.
    • Ending junk lawsuits. The GOP plan would help end costly junk lawsuits and curb defensive medicine by enacting medical liability reforms modeled after the successful state laws of California and Texas.
    • Prevents insurers from unjustly cancelling a policy. The GOP plan prohibits an insurer from cancelling a policy unless a person commits fraud or conceals material facts about a health condition.
    • Encouraging Small Business Health Plans. The GOP plan gives small businesses the power to pool together and offer health care at lower prices, just as corporations and labor unions do.
    • Encouraging innovative state programs. The GOP plan rewards innovation by providing incentive payments to states that reduce premiums and the number of uninsured.
    • Allowing Americans to buy insurance across state lines. The GOP plan allows Americans to shop for coverage from coast to coast by allowing Americans living in one state to purchase insurance in another.
    • Promoting healthier lifestyles. The GOP plan promotes prevention & wellness by giving employers greater flexibility to financially reward employees who adopt healthier lifestyles.
    • Enhancing Health Savings Accounts (HSAs). The GOP plan creates new incentives to save for current and future health care needs by allowing qualified participants to use HSA funds to pay premiums for high deductible health insurance.
    • Allowing dependents to remain on their parents’ policies. The GOP plan encourages coverage of young adults on their parents’ insurance through age 25.
    http://gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/S...d_11-04-09.pdf

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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The party of NO hasn't made any effort at cooperation for over a year. Why would McCain think that anyone would expect otherwise.

    The GOP has a strategy to oppose everything and hope that things do not improve so that they can point to their unanimous opposition to Obama as a reason to vote for the GOP.

    Its a dangerous political game that the GOP is playing and it could reap big dividends for them. However, it could backfire as well.

    But don't let anyone kid themselves. The Party of No has made it clear that they have no intent to cooperate or in good faith negotiate. Its not part of their strategy.
    Your idea of cooperation and bi-partisanship is really called capitulation..... just a thought for you...... there was bi-partisanship in this health care legislation..... in opposition to it.
    There is no such thing as a “Natural Born Dual-Citizen“.

    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Do you people believe everything the MSM tells you? Have any of you ever thought to just do a quick Google search before showing your bias and ignorance?



    http://gopleader.gov/UploadedFiles/S...d_11-04-09.pdf

    Being the party of ideas, a phenomenon as exemplified by Daniel Patrick Moynihan's study of the Democratic party's inability to be perceived as the "party of ideas" in Miles to Go is not merely making proposals, it is the cohesive development of a party platform that can also sell that image to the American people.

    The Republican party has "miles to go" in being able to do so. My post was in effect an optimistic belief in the Republican party to develop a cohesive platform in the future.
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