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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Go McCain!!!! The longer the Republicans can stall this monstrous bill from taking effect, the more support they will garner. I hope they do anything they can to challenge, block, sabotage, and poison any efforts on moving this legislation any further.

    They went into public service to serve their constituents.

    Even when the Democrats were sorely put out in 2000, they still engaged in the governance of the country. Obama won by decent margin. I can't imagine what Republicans would do had Obama been put in office by the Supreme Court.

    Elections have consequences. For Pete's sake, y'all need to learn to deal with that.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

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    They went into public service to serve their constituents.
    And they are serving me quite well.

    Even when the Democrats were sorely put out in 2000, they still engaged in the governance of the country.
    Opposing and blocking democrat quagmires of senseless legislation IS engaging governance of the country.

    Obama won by decent margin. I can't imagine what Republicans would do had Obama been put in office by the Supreme Court.
    Which has what to do with the price of tea in china?

    Elections have consequences. For Pete's sake, y'all need to learn to deal with that.
    They are dealing with it by mitigating those consequences as much as possible.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Big deal. Democrats just showed Republicans and the whole nation that they don't need the votes. The health care bill passed without a single yes from the GOP, and even a few of their own.

    Sounds like sour grapes for McCain. You weren't even kept in the loop from the get-go, so what makes you think you will be from here on out?

    Best thing for Republicans to do is to just press forward, put on a brave face, and begin the pushes to clear Congress of the Democratic majority in November.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    Elections have consequences. For Pete's sake, y'all need to learn to deal with that.
    Tell that to Scott Brown.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

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    And they are serving me quite well.

    Opposing and blocking democrat quagmires of senseless legislation IS engaging governance of the country.
    No, they wasted an opportunity to shape a major piece of legislation with their stunt. They had a year in which to join in, but at every juncture, they pulled a stunt. Remember their plan for health care turned out to be a pamphlet? What about all the years they were in power and could have put forth health care reform in any shape they desired? They would have even had some Democrats join them, but no, they don't care about the issue and never have. This is price you pay for their stubborn refusal to become part of the process. They did not serve you well at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Which has what to do with the price of tea in china?
    I'm drawing an analogy. Democrats were just as angry in 2000 as the GOP is now at having lost the presidency and the congress. They however did not pull the stunts we have seen coming from the GOP.

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    They are dealing with it by mitigating those consequences as much as possible.
    Refusing to engage in their jobs, as was stated earlier in this thread, is not mitigation.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Dav View Post
    Tell that to Scott Brown.
    I don't see your point. What has Scott Brown to do with accepting the outcome of an election.

    Democrats have. They moved on and passed health care.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    No, they wasted an opportunity to shape a major piece of legislation with their stunt. They had a year in which to join in, but at every juncture, they pulled a stunt. Remember their plan for health care turned out to be a pamphlet? What about all the years they were in power and could have put forth health care reform in any shape they desired? They would have even had some Democrats join them, but no, they don't care about the issue and never have. This is price you pay for their stubborn refusal to become part of the process. They did not serve you well at all.
    No, no...they are serving me quite well, thank you. The only price I see is the cost of allowing this turd from the democrats to go through.

    I'm drawing an analogy. Democrats were just as angry in 2000 as the GOP is now at having lost the presidency and the congress. They however did not pull the stunts we have seen coming from the GOP.
    You're kidding, right? So it wasn't democrats trying to call the war in Iraq a loss at every turn just to smear Republican victory? Wow, you sure do have a selective memory when it comes to "stunts".

    Refusing to engage in their jobs,
    They are engaging their job. They are hindering the opposition party. That is their job when necessary. I am pleased with their efforts.

    as was stated earlier in this thread, is not mitigation.
    Yes, it is mitigation. Opposing crap legislation and stopping democrats from passing more crap legislation, uncontested, is mitigation.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    CNN.com - Hastert seeks Democratic cooperation - Nov 3, 2004

    A day after strengthening the Republican Party's majority in the House, Speaker Dennis Hastert called on Democrats to assist GOP efforts to fight the war on terror, create jobs and expand health insurance to more Americans. "I pledge to work with those Democrats who want to work with me to get good things done for the American people," Hastert said Wednesday.

    But House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi of California, stung by her party's losses on Election Day, seemed unlikely to accept the offer.
    "The Republicans did not have an election about jobs, health care, education, environment, national security. They had an election about wedge issues in our country, and you know what they are," she said. "They exploited the loveliness of the American people, the devoutness of people of faith for a political end."
    USATODAY.com - Voters reward cooperation, not obstruction, Bush says

    President Bush, dogged by low poll ratings, faced with growing public unease about the war in Iraq and frustrated by a Democratic minority bent on blocking his agenda, has taken to the offensive in hope of regaining some momentum. He has chosen to embark on a strategy of labeling the Democrats as obstructionists, unwilling to join with Republicans to solve problems, and taking his case to the American people.

    It appears that the Democrats have a strategy too. Merle Black, a political scientist at Emory University in Atlanta, says the short-term goal of the Democrats is to block the Republicans, show that they didn't get anything accomplished with control of Congress and the presidency. "Very few Democrats are willing to make common cause with him. The Democrats feel they can take the issue of Republican failure and win back Congress and the presidency. They have no incentive to compromise," Black said.

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    Hardly the language of compromise.

    Donna Brazile, a Democratic strategist and manager of Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign, says the Bush tactic to blame the Democrats for his inability to pass his agenda is a diversion to mask how badly things are going in the country. "Democrats are not in a mood to play the game the Republicans want us to play," she said. "We've been burned before trying to work with them only to have the president come back and say in election campaigns that we haven't done enough."
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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    You can thank Obama for that. One of the few words from his mouth during his campaign platform, other than "hope" and "change", was talking about ending bipartisanship. The irony is that this is the most polarized Congress ever, by far. Hell, even the Contract with America has a grass-roots Democratic support.

    As Gina hinted on, though, this really was a partial ball-drop for the Republicans who had ample amount of time to adjust health care in the country. When I saw a few GOP pundits talk about "oh we had no problem with A B and C, it was X Y and Z that ruins everything", I think to myself that A B and C weren't exactly important in the past - just now, when it's a power play.

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    Re: McCain: Don't expect GOP cooperation on legislation for the rest of this year

    Quote Originally Posted by Gina View Post
    I don't see your point. What has Scott Brown to do with accepting the outcome of an election.

    Democrats have. They moved on and passed health care.
    Look at this comment again. Think about Scott Brown, and the circumstances under which he became Senator. Now think about it harder.


    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You're kidding, right? So it wasn't democrats trying to call the war in Iraq a loss at every turn just to smear Republican victory? Wow, you sure do have a selective memory when it comes to "stunts".
    Democrats never try to obstruct anything. Especially not tax cuts (for the rich onoz!) or Social Security privatization (it'll kill granny!!!1!). Haven't you heard? Their new nickname is the "Party of Yes".

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