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Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

For ****'s sake stop saying that and prove him wrong once and for all. Who cares if it's Media Matters and who cares how many times they've been wrong before? Even the freaking National Enquirer gets it right once decade or so.

I would love nothing more than to challenge this one, because I actually like Beck and don't think much of Media Matters. But I really don't see how I can defend this one.

Can you?
I could care less about proving an internet poster "wrong" you catch on yet? Media Matters lie by rote. Proven again and again, no need to prove it to an internet poster that can't even acknowledge their last big lie, from only a few days ago. Or do you seriously think his ability to address that inconvient fact bodes well for the "debate" he offers up on this one?

I wonder wonder wonder why the only "media organization" on the planet making this claim about Beck is MM? You tend to get the idea there is a reason for that? Are you that gullible and easily lead?

Have fun, I'm off to the links.:2wave:
 
I could care less about proving an internet poster "wrong" you catch on yet? Media Matters lie by rote. Proven again and again, no need to prove it to an internet poster that can't even acknowledge their last big lie, from only a few days ago. Or do you seriously think his ability to address that inconvient fact bodes well for the "debate" he offers up on this one?

I wonder wonder wonder why the only "media organization" on the planet making this claim about Beck is MM? You tend to get the idea there is a reason for that? Are you that gullible and easily lead?

Have fun, I'm off to the links.:2wave:

So you can't than. That's fine, but you should at least be willing to admit it.
 
I could care less about proving an internet poster "wrong" you catch on yet? Media Matters lie by rote. Proven again and again, no need to prove it to an internet poster that can't even acknowledge their last big lie, from only a few days ago. Or do you seriously think his ability to address that inconvient fact bodes well for the "debate" he offers up on this one?

It bodes about on par with your refusal to address what Beck actually said. :shrug:

I wonder wonder wonder why the only "media organization" on the planet making this claim about Beck is MM? You tend to get the idea there is a reason for that? Are you that gullible and easily lead?

Probably because in the grand scheme of things what he says is utterly irrelevant to everyone. Except to Media Matters, obviously.
 
It bodes about on par with your refusal to address what Beck actually said. :shrug:
I think you meant my refusal to entertain yet another what MM says Beck said circle jerk. Ya got me! GUILTY as charged! Besides, if you actually know how these MM says scenarios play out routinely you'd not entertain such an obvious appeal to ignore context, hyperbole and well, the way these idiotic MM claims always play out.

Probably because in the grand scheme of things what he says is utterly irrelevant to everyone. Except to Media Matters, obviously.
And I guess you and megaprogman.;)
 
I think you meant my refusal to entertain yet another what MM says Beck said circle jerk. Ya got me! GUILTY as charged! Besides, if you actually know how these MM says scenarios play out routinely you'd not entertain such an obvious appeal to ignore context, hyperbole and well, the way these idiotic MM claims always play out.

I watched the entire program. Nothing was taken out of context.


And I guess you and megaprogman.;)

And what are you still doing here? ;)
 
I watched the entire program. Nothing was taken out of context.
You stated earlier that you enjoy Beck and dislike MM. For the sake of argument, I suppose, you now are acting as if hyperbole from either of these sources is not par for the course. Mkay, fine by me.

And what are you still doing here? ;)
Sadly thundershowers have rolled in, ruining golf plans. What of it?
 
Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him | Media Matters for America

I am sorry but I cannot understand how anyone could listen to someone this paranoid.

Near the end of the clip, beginning at the 50 second mark, he suggests that the administration wants to kill him.

For those of you claiming that this comes from a biased website, ignore the site and listen to the words coming out of becks mouth. He ends the segment on his own by stating that he will be "back in a minute" so this is not being taken out of context.

:rofl You are a perfect example of what Rush Limbaugh calls the "drive-by media." You take snippets of what Conservatives say, spin the context to meet your end goal, and then spew false claims of conservative conspiracy theories.
 
:rofl You are a perfect example of what Rush Limbaugh calls the "drive-by media." You take snippets of what Conservatives say, spin the context to meet your end goal, and then spew false claims of conservative conspiracy theories.

Like I said before. Beck himself went to commercial before the clip ended. There was no creative editing.
 
I think it's just another attempt for Beck to claim he is being taken seriously by his political superiors. I doubt he is paranoid about his safety-I think if he believes his importance-he is just full of himself.

I think this is the entertainer believing he represents something bigger than himself.
 
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For all I know, or we know, this could be a facade perpetrated by Beck to up his profile. There is a theatrical presence of a show that, if I am correct, is pre-recorded, so I would not be surprised if some of this was merely part of that presentation rather than an actual philosophy about himself.
 
For all I know, or we know, this could be a facade perpetrated by Beck to up his profile. There is a theatrical presence of a show that, if I am correct, is pre-recorded, so I would not be surprised if some of this was merely part of that presentation rather than an actual philosophy about himself.
You are correct, the show is pre-recorded and is not a live broadcast. Add to that the fact that Beck knows MM awaits his every utterance with baited breath, and what you have is a spin meister that really knows how to goad MM into supplying much hype and increased ratings for he and his horrible show.;)
 
Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him | Media Matters for America

I am sorry but I cannot understand how anyone could listen to someone this paranoid.

Near the end of the clip, beginning at the 50 second mark, he suggests that the administration wants to kill him.

For those of you claiming that this comes from a biased website, ignore the site and listen to the words coming out of becks mouth. He ends the segment on his own by stating that he will be "back in a minute" so this is not being taken out of context.

If he's afraid the government wants to kill him, he better be glad it's under the Obama administration and not the Bush administration, because Cheney actually could and actually would if he really wanted to.
 
I would bet this is sarcasm from Beck. I have seen his show a few times and he uses a lot of sarcasm for humor. Besides, Media Matters isn't about posting the truth, it spews anything and puts a spin on conservative media.

Have you actually ever watched anything from Media Matters?

They basically just post the actual clips from the actual person showing the actual content.

The right-wing wackos hate them because they can't just spew out the garbage that they want and deny accountability.
MM has caught Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Cheney..and many others in outright lies. Thats why they hate MM so much.
 
Have you actually ever watched anything from Media Matters?

They basically just post the actual clips from the actual person showing the actual content.

The right-wing wackos hate them because they can't just spew out the garbage that they want and deny accountability.
MM has caught Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Cheney..and many others in outright lies. Thats why they hate MM so much.
I guess you missed out on a few discussions in this thread. Last week Media Matters "edited" Rush Limbaugh answering a direct question from a caller. The question put to him was, "where will you go for medical care if this bill passes?"

His answer, rather tongue in cheek was Costa Rica. Media Matters simply cut out the question and posted the portion of the audio where Limbaugh stated he'd "go to Costa Rica." Then they ran the "report" as Rush Limbaugh says he will move to Costa Rica.:doh

Yip that is the kind of integrity you get from Media Matters week in and week out. Liars calling other people liars, and the left just loves it. Can't get enough of it, in fact we get two or three Media Matters post at DP every week.

Yeah, we've "watched" and read Media Matters and know all about their peculiar brand of honesty.
 
Well, places like media matters usually focus on meaningless drivel in order to one-up their ideological opponents.

I'm having a difficult time figuring out exactly what I am supposed to get from things like this. Beck pretending that he is a big deal? Oh no, Beck has an ego. Glad you made me aware of it, Media Matters. Now how does this make me a more informed citizen? It doesn't.
 
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The point of this whole thing, to me at least, is if Beck honestly thinks that the government may go after him, than he is delusional enough that the rest of his message is called into question.
 
:rofl You are a perfect example of what Rush Limbaugh calls the "drive-by media." You take snippets of what Conservatives say, spin the context to meet your end goal, and then spew false claims of conservative conspiracy theories.

Actually that's not a perfect example at all of what Rush calls the "drive by media". The term originated when he compare media members to gang bangers doing "drive bys" with stories. They show up to a story, immedietely start reporting whatever outlandish things they want, and then speed away as the rest of us have to actually pick up the pieces of their factually incorrect stories.

The most stunning example of this that Rush gave had very little to do with spinning what Conservatives stay, it was the situation with Katrina and the super dome. The Media showed up, started reporting all kind of attrocities going on in the super dome, and then sped off to the next story once the dust settled and information came out that all their stories were bogus, with the corrections getting extremely less attention in comparison.

Its the penchant for reporting outlandish accusations as certainty before the facts come out and moving onto a new story before those facts come out causing the correct information to be basically buried under "new" news and the hysterical original story being what' remains in most peoples minds.
 
Have you actually ever watched anything from Media Matters?

They basically just post the actual clips from the actual person showing the actual content.

The right-wing wackos hate them because they can't just spew out the garbage that they want and deny accountability.
MM has caught Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Cheney..and many others in outright lies. Thats why they hate MM so much.

Actually, that's not the issue.

Media Matters tends to take a few minutes long clip, if that, out of a one hour or three hour daily broadcast, and tends to provide it in such a way that the necessary context is missing. They also have an almost certain habit of leading into every video with a heaping load of extremely partisan commentary prior to it, thus commendering the context and the mentality people have going into the video from the get go. This is akin to during polls when you tell someone that "Most people say that....do you believe it" is considered bad polling because it proeconditions the listener to be in the mindest that many people believe what's being said. Media Matters begins setting the tone of the context they want, the interpritation they want, from the onset of their article so that by the time someone gets to the video they're viewing it from the mindset of Media Matters rather than from an ojbective neutral place.

The recent Rush Limbaugh situation is a PERFECT example of their devious and extremely propoganda oriented talents. They take a short clip from a man that has nearly 2 hours of broadcast time five days a week for the majority of the year. From a completely neutral stand point the comment could've been taken either way, as moving there to live or going there to get health care. Media Matters article immedietely went into hyper partisan liberal spin mode from the beginning, conditioning the reader with their OWN context to be more likely to interprite Rush's words as only having one clear option, that he was moving moving and was going to use their socialist medicine.

However when you consider the fact that this was not a singlular isolated comment made by the man but one of millions than one can not ignore every other ounce of context. Rush has repeatedly stated he has no insurance on his show, that he pays for medical expenses out of pocket. He's repeatedly stated that while he was in the hospital in Hawaii he paid for it out of pocket. He's also ridiculed those that would leave the country simply because of a political decision or vote. Adding that context together it would be far more likely to come to the conclusion that he was meaning he'd go there to pay out of pocket for his own health care when needed.

However Media Matters has a specific, defined, OBVIOUS agenda and an audiance of hyper partisan liberals that it has to satisfy. Giving the context from Rush's history would at least cause people to question their spin of it and at worst would make their spin look ridiculous. Giving it simply as a neutral situation without any of their own commentary or spin surrounding it would likely cause their die hards to read it like theirs but those in the middle who can easily be manipulated may go either way. So, because Media Matters has an agenda they insert their own bias, their own take, and their own context around it to precondition those people to believe it is as they suggest it is.

This is the typical, repeated, continual method that Media Matters acts. That is why I don't consider them credible nor do I take anything they say as gospel. There has been too many times that even when they post the actual video or words that they've done so while not just completely ignoring context, history, tone, etc but actually recasting those things to meet their agenda.

In regards to the Beck thing, I'm at work so can't watch at the moment. However I would consider the way Media Matters is portraying it as gospel to be about as likely as WorldNetDailys take on "My Muslim Faith".
 
I would bet this is sarcasm from Beck. I have seen his show a few times and he uses a lot of sarcasm for humor. Besides, Media Matters isn't about posting the truth, it spews anything and puts a spin on conservative media.

See, it only took a few minutes for some mindless response saying:

1. He's not serious.

2. The site is biased (even though it simply posted a Beck video clip where you can hear Beck's own words).

There is nothing these people won't believe or construct to protect these paranoid lunatics.
 
Translation: Its the way I say it is and only that way and any other inteprititation that could possibly happen is wrong unless its what I say it is therefore I can claim I'm right.

:roll:
 
Translation: Its the way I say it is and only that way and any other inteprititation that could possibly happen is wrong unless its what I say it is therefore I can claim I'm right.

:roll:

So he didn't say it?

The clip is right there.
 
It's about time they scared him into respecting the president and not plot anything cruel.
 
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