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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I think it's just another attempt for Beck to claim he is being taken seriously by his political superiors.
    After Glenn Beck uncovered the truth about Van Jones, which in turn resulted in Jones' removal from the White House, I think it's safe to say someone is taking him seriously.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    1. Hate Beck and think he's actually insane, not like "OMG, he thinks unlike me and disagree's with me and says inflamatory things" insane but literally, full out, actually insane
    Honestly though, I think the guy is insane or is an extremely good con man. I can't say I hate him though, but I am worried about his influence helping others lose touch with reality. I think this is partially because a very large number of people I interact with think this guy is absolutely correct in his analysis of politics. I see these otherwise good people becoming more radicalized and the miasma of it has even infected my church. I don't hate him, but I do fear his influence because otherwise good people are succumbing to irrational anger and fear of things that are simply not true. So anything I can do to help point out how offbase he is will hopefully do some good.
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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Honestly though, I think the guy is insane or is an extremely good con man. I can't say I hate him though, but I am worried about his influence helping others lose touch with reality. I think this is partially because a very large number of people I interact with think this guy is absolutely correct in his analysis of politics. I see these otherwise good people becoming more radicalized and the miasma of it has even infected my church. I don't hate him, but I do fear his influence because otherwise good people are succumbing to irrational anger and fear of things that are simply not true. So anything I can do to help point out how offbase he is will hopefully do some good.
    But see, here's your problem.

    If you came in here starting a thread ridiculing him for using such over blown ridiculous hyperbole and rhetoric. Because, even when he's not serious, it simply fuels and embolden the fringe within his view base to do the ridiculous and atrocious acts that they do. Complaining about how ridiculous his "Jesus didn't practice Marxism" comment is based on the fact of which came first. Stating how making such outlandish exaggerations as the White House being out to kill him is irresponsible in the midst of the actions of the fringe of his view base recently. And other things like that I, and some other more reasonable conservatives, would probably be in here agreeing with you going "Yeah, that was rather stupid. I get he was trying to tie it in with the whole religious theme he was gong for, but that was a little much. This kind of political rhetoric is not helpful on either side".

    Instead, you came at it from "Whoa boy, this guys crazy, he thinks Obama and Co are really going to kill him, people must be crazy to actually listen to this guy (based off the notion he's paranoid)". This immediately invites people into the thread simply to bash, trash, and bag on Beck and his viewers, even the more rational ones that don't take the hyperbole as serious suggestions like some of the fringe do or doesn't believe everything he says is gospel. This immediately moves the conversation AWAY from warning people "how off base" he is because YOU are then seeming offbase yourself in actually believing something like this is meant LITERALLY. If your TRUE intention was REALLY about convincing people he's off base you'd be focusing on people that are viewers of Beck, at least casually, and could be swayed. Those people aren't the ones likely to think "OMG He really thinks Obama is going to try to kill him!" because that's absolutely a silly and ridiculous notion to believe unless you're someone thats only real experience with Beck is Media Matters, blogs, YouTube clips, or internet forums

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    But see, here's your problem.

    If you came in here starting a thread ridiculing him for using such over blown ridiculous hyperbole and rhetoric. Because, even when he's not serious, it simply fuels and embolden the fringe within his view base to do the ridiculous and atrocious acts that they do. Complaining about how ridiculous his "Jesus didn't practice Marxism" comment is based on the fact of which came first. Stating how making such outlandish exaggerations as the White House being out to kill him is irresponsible in the midst of the actions of the fringe of his view base recently. And other things like that I, and some other more reasonable conservatives, would probably be in here agreeing with you going "Yeah, that was rather stupid. I get he was trying to tie it in with the whole religious theme he was gong for, but that was a little much. This kind of political rhetoric is not helpful on either side".
    I could have done that, but that would not have been my honest impression from watching the clip.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Instead, you came at it from "Whoa boy, this guys crazy, he thinks Obama and Co are really going to kill him, people must be crazy to actually listen to this guy (based off the notion he's paranoid)". This immediately invites people into the thread simply to bash, trash, and bag on Beck and his viewers, even the more rational ones that don't take the hyperbole as serious suggestions like some of the fringe do or doesn't believe everything he says is gospel. This immediately moves the conversation AWAY from warning people "how off base" he is because YOU are then seeming offbase yourself in actually believing something like this is meant LITERALLY. If your TRUE intention was REALLY about convincing people he's off base you'd be focusing on people that are viewers of Beck, at least casually, and could be swayed. Those people aren't the ones likely to think "OMG He really thinks Obama is going to try to kill him!" because that's absolutely a silly and ridiculous notion to believe unless you're someone thats only real experience with Beck is Media Matters, blogs, YouTube clips, or internet forums
    I listen to beck every other day during lunch because FM radio does not work well in the town that I work in and the only stations i get are country or classical. I am the type who has to have some sort of background noise and I tend to forget my Ipod. So I am somewhat familiar with him, but whenever I listen to him, hes always going on about this sort of stuff. My honest impression of him is that he is either insane or he is a con man, so while it may have not been the best approach for me to post what I posted, so far I have not encountered much information that would lead me to believe anything different than what I said.

    This may make me overly partisan, stupid, or whatever, I don't know, but as far as I can tell, this man seems to believe everything he says.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    I would say you've got it right, but you just gambled on the far more unrealistic option.

    Con Men are FAR more likely to succeed at business, manage to get a radio and TV show and multiple books, and that sort of thing than someone who is Legitimately insane.

    But to a point I think most political commentators, and even many politicians and journalists, to a point could be considered Con men

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I would say you've got it right, but you just gambled on the far more unrealistic option.

    Con Men are FAR more likely to succeed at business, manage to get a radio and TV show and multiple books, and that sort of thing than someone who is Legitimately insane.

    But to a point I think most political commentators, and even many politicians and journalists, to a point could be considered Con men
    Very insightful. Perhaps you are correct. One issue I see is that I let my fear of his effect on people color my judgment. I will need to think about this.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Someone else talking about Obama thugs.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUg_1S_nog8"]YouTube- Mike Sola Confronts Congressman Dingell at Town Hall Meeting[/ame]
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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Someone else talking about Obama thugs.
    Generally it is a good idea to post things that have something to do with the thread.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Generally it is a good idea to post things that have something to do with the thread.
    What? This guy also suggests the Obama admin is comming after him. Im not going to start a whoooole new thread on it when this one is close enough.
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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Referring to the title of this thread.
    Does this mean that the Obama administration will do something to be applauded by a large segment of America?

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