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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The only way I'd read that, from a purely objective point of view, as someone LITERALLY believing the president is going to literally kill them is if they didn't have a history of using allagory or hyperbole to make points and did have a history of being extremely paranoid or any legitimate reason to believe it to be true.

    Commentators, regardless of their sign, tend to use heavy doses of sarcasm, hyperbole, allagory, and other type of devices to heighten their entertainment value and to put across their points. Beck, while definitely having some crazy ideas and views at times, does not seem to have provided any evidence that he's crazy enough to believe that the government is actually tying to LITERALLY kill him let alone state such on TV if it was legitimate, and I've seen no reason to believe such things are actually true to inspire such an idea.
    Do you really believe Beck was just using allegory? Really?

    You need to watch the clip.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB5NEZc0aDM"]YouTube- Glenn Beck - Tuesday March 23, 2010 - Part 2 of 4[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZaVYbHOCLc"]YouTube- Glenn Beck - Tuesday March 23, 2010 - Part 3 of 4[/ame]

    I found the episode. The comments in question are in the last two minutes of clip 2 and the beginning of clip 3. I accept that this might have been taken out of context by MM (and I really hadn't heard of them before I started this thread, but you guys are right, they don't have a good reputation), however I watched the whole thing and I do not see any further context on this one. So, again, as far as I can tell, he seems to think people might be out to kill him.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Actually there was a poster who said she watched the episode in question in its entirety and said that the Media Matters clip was correct.

    Regardless this is just Beck being Beck and screaming look at me.
    Yeah, that was me. I watched the entire episode and there is no getting around the fact that he did suggest the administration is out to get him and possibly kill him. I really don't see how his telling them no to break another commandment "thou shall not kill" can be interpreted.

    And yeah, that was just Beck screaming look how important I am the powers that be wanna see me dead. I think he's hilarious.
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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Do you really believe Beck was just using allegory? Really?

    You need to watch the clip.
    I don't know if Beck was using allegory. My point throughout this entire time is that I'm not going to pass judgement on it without all the info, and that MEDIA MATTERS giving their spin and then posting a short clip from an hour long show of a man whose got hours upon hours of transmissions one can use to gain an understanding and context is NOT "all the info".

    I also sated I can't watch the video yet. The only reason I commented definitively on something was the single line you quoted, and even with that I prefaced it that it was based off an objective reading of it sans context and was not done to make a determination about what Beck said, meant, or was doing but simply showing that there are multiple ways to potentially read it depending on what the context surrounding it was and the dishonest attempts to act like he could've only meant it one way were just that, dishonest.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    I don't think for a moment that Glenn Beck actually thinks the government will try to assassinate him, but drumming up "the man is out to get me because I'm telling you what they don't want to know" is helpful to his ratings. Being hyperbolic about it is much more effective than just saying "Gee, Obama sure doesn't agree with my political philosophy!"
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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I don't know if Beck was using allegory. My point throughout this entire time is that I'm not going to pass judgement on it without all the info, and that MEDIA MATTERS giving their spin and then posting a short clip from an hour long show of a man whose got hours upon hours of transmissions one can use to gain an understanding and context is NOT "all the info".
    It shows what he said about Obama killing him. If that's not enough for you, fine. Watch the whole hour if you want. Watch every episode, and read his autobiography if you want.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I don't think for a moment that Glenn Beck actually thinks the government will try to assassinate him, but drumming up "the man is out to get me because I'm telling you what they don't want to know" is helpful to his ratings. Being hyperbolic about it is much more effective than just saying "Gee, Obama sure doesn't agree with my political philosophy!"
    Which knowing his history, his style, the reality of making a legitimate claim like that and the problems that it can cause, and other such things makes me suspect that's most likely to be the case. I won't make the determination till I can watch, maybe something about it will convince me that he's serious, but over all I'm guessing its what you're saying.

    Which is idiotic and stupid rhetoric and hyperbole, the type that really needs to get out of discussing politics in general. Its the over the top nature of it that makes me annoyed to watch it. The problem is I rarely can actaully speak negatively about it because the twisted exaggerations and the willful removal of common sense and objectivity that accompanies other peoples viewing of it so often produces a result that I find even more disgusting in the realm of politics than what's he doing, which is then where my focus gets moved to.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    I really do wish this man would dry up and blow away - I'm sure the current administration has no desire to kill him - he's actually helping them by his psychotic behavior.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Which knowing his history, his style, the reality of making a legitimate claim like that and the problems that it can cause, and other such things makes me suspect that's most likely to be the case.
    Maybe he was serious then too.

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    Re: Beck suggests Obama administration "coming after him" and may kill him

    It is a matter of complete indifference to me whether this (to call him a Man would be overstating his status) loudmouth expires through natural or unnatural means.
    All I wish would be that Fox administration realize that his declining popularity will hit the ratings of some of the other Fox rantmiesters.

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