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Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

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Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses - scouts - Gawker

The lawyer for a Portland man, who is suing the organization for failing to protect him from a serial abuser, obtained the files as part of the case, say the Associated Press. "The Boy Scouts of America ignored clear warning signs that Boy Scouts were being abused," he said. The scouts, meanwhile, counter that they did everything they could.

Wow. Funny, we were just talking about this on the religion board.
 
I got kicked out of Boy Scouts. I got caught eating Brownies. :rofl
 
gotta love your bigotry..... :roll:

While the statement was harsh, it is getting hard to deny that the Boy Scouts do seem to have a pretty big problem with this. I just wish those that use the Boy Scouts for things like this enjoy prison.
 
While the statement was harsh, it is getting hard to deny that the Boy Scouts do seem to have a pretty big problem with this. I just wish those that use the Boy Scouts for things like this enjoy prison.




They should be shot in the head uncerimoniously. That said. To equate these sick ****s with the whole of the boyscouts is bigotry....



John wayne gacy was a liberal. Should I make a similar jump in idiotic conclusions? ;)
 
maybe the religion board is appropriate since this sounds similar to the concealment of priestly pedophiles from public detection a while back
 
They should be shot in the head uncerimoniously. That said. To equate these sick ****s with the whole of the boyscouts is bigotry....



John wayne gacy was a liberal. Should I make a similar jump in idiotic conclusions? ;)

No you shouldn't, but the Boy Scouts does seem to have a problem with this. I just feel the organization has to take a much strong interview process with their leaders to avoid things like this. This is a serious issue and organization needs to apparently take a much stronger stance on it.
 
Anytime you place young boys in the company of men you are going to attract pedophiles. If you put a flock of sheep out in a meadow where do you think the wolves are going to gather? It isn't rocket science here.

The real fact that stinks is the cover ups. That has been seen in the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts. Why would good men cover this crap up? Unless they themselves condone it.
 
No you shouldn't, but the Boy Scouts does seem to have a problem with this. I just feel the organization has to take a much strong interview process with their leaders to avoid things like this. This is a serious issue and organization needs to apparently take a much stronger stance on it.




They should employ background checks and fingerprinting like the BG clubs do. I fully support that.....
 
Anytime you place young boys in the company of men you are going to attract pedophiles. If you put a flock of sheep out in a meadow where do you think the wolves are going to gather? It isn't rocket science here.

The real fact that stinks is the cover ups. That has been seen in the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts. Why would good men cover this crap up? Unless they themselves condone it.




Embarrassment? Soft spine? not of as good character as we thought? Man is fallable.
 
The real fact that stinks is the cover ups. That has been seen in the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts. Why would good men cover this crap up? Unless they themselves condone it.

This is another problem I have with it. Why for the love of God would you hurt your own organization by hiding these people. It puts you in a much different light if you hide them than if you just out them right away.
 
And lets put the numbers into context...



Confidential files from the Boy Scouts of America show that the organization knew of at least 1,000 suspected child molesters from 1965 to 1985 and tried to hush it up, an attorney in a sexual abuse lawsuit charges.



so 1000 "suspected" in 20 years?



They all should have been at least kicked out and shame on the BSA for coverig it up, but to call it "preavalant" is unneeded hyperbole.
 
And lets put the numbers into context...



Confidential files from the Boy Scouts of America show that the organization knew of at least 1,000 suspected child molesters from 1965 to 1985 and tried to hush it up, an attorney in a sexual abuse lawsuit charges.



so 1000 "suspected" in 20 years?



They all should have been at least kicked out and shame on the BSA for coverig it up, but to call it "preavalant" is unneeded hyperbole.

The point is they kept a significant problem a secret.
 
The point is they kept a significant problem a secret.





I think you are speculating? How many of those 1000 were complete bogus? We don't know. until we do, making statements they are keeping a "significant problem a secret" is a bit premature....



But like I said, fingerprints and background checks at minimum.
 
And lets put the numbers into context...



Confidential files from the Boy Scouts of America show that the organization knew of at least 1,000 suspected child molesters from 1965 to 1985 and tried to hush it up, an attorney in a sexual abuse lawsuit charges.



so 1000 "suspected" in 20 years?



They all should have been at least kicked out and shame on the BSA for coverig it up, but to call it "preavalant" is unneeded hyperbole.

i agree, the hyperbole is unnecessary when one recognizes that data indicates an average of 20 child molesters per state were known by BSA and they were still trusted to be out with our boys in the wilderness

as a former scout leader i am appalled at the (in)action of BSA if this disclosure proves correct
 
When I was a trainer in BSA we taught ways to protect the boys and the adults how to help avoid situations where any abuse could happen, and where a false accusation could arise. There was always to be at least 3 people in every goup, either 2 adults with one boy or 2 kids with one adult. This was to be followed whenever a non-relative adult escorted a boy anywhere! No excuses. I took a lot of **** for enforcing this 100%.

There was also reference checking and questionaires asking for permission to do a police background check. If any adult balked at filling the app after being told of that question we HAD to report them. Evidence didn't matter. Someone higher up would look into it.

So, there are indeed BSA rules and procedures in place to help minimize the chances of any abuse happening. I lost a good friend when he found out I reported him when he acted funny, and decided not to fill out the app, after I explained the question and its reason to him. Turns out he had other illegalities to hide that had nothing to do with pedophilia. Didn't matter to me. My obligation, as a Cubmaster, to protect my boys was priority #1. Most BSA leaders take this seriously. The problem is usually with those at the top who have political reasons for hiding abuse complaints.

Boy and Cub Scouts is in effect a candy store for pedophiles. They are going to try to get in there. It's up to the leaders to Do Their Best to stop them. BSA is a great program that offers so much for our young men. It's a real shame that this **** ruins it for so many.
 
One of the few adult pedophiles I've ever known was a local boy scout leader who also chaired our county's child abuse prevention task force.
 
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I wasn't allowed to join the boy scouts. I think my mom had the leader figured out.
 
Note strategically-placed walking-stick preventing anyone from sitting on his lap.

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Baden -Powell, sitting on Poole Quay, waiting for the Brownsea Island ferry.
 
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One of the few adult pedophiles I've ever known was a local boy scout leader who also chaired our county's child abuse prevention task force.
Damn, there's some sick irony involved there...
 
Note strategically-placed walking-stick preventing anyone from sitting on his lap.

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Baden -Powell, sitting on Poole Quay, waiting for the Brownsea Island ferry.

LOLZ! I always find it amusing that Baden-Powell's best known publication was 'Scouting for Boys'. At least he was honest about it. :mrgreen:
 
gotta love your bigotry..... :roll:
You got that right. I'm bigoted against the people who abuse children. I'm very bigoted against organizations that conspire to hide child abusers to protect it's veneer of piety.

Yup, that's me, a bigot alright. :2wave:
 
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