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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    Anytime you place young boys in the company of men you are going to attract pedophiles. If you put a flock of sheep out in a meadow where do you think the wolves are going to gather? It isn't rocket science here.

    The real fact that stinks is the cover ups. That has been seen in the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts. Why would good men cover this crap up? Unless they themselves condone it.

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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    No you shouldn't, but the Boy Scouts does seem to have a problem with this. I just feel the organization has to take a much strong interview process with their leaders to avoid things like this. This is a serious issue and organization needs to apparently take a much stronger stance on it.



    They should employ background checks and fingerprinting like the BG clubs do. I fully support that.....
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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Anytime you place young boys in the company of men you are going to attract pedophiles. If you put a flock of sheep out in a meadow where do you think the wolves are going to gather? It isn't rocket science here.

    The real fact that stinks is the cover ups. That has been seen in the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts. Why would good men cover this crap up? Unless they themselves condone it.



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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    The real fact that stinks is the cover ups. That has been seen in the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts. Why would good men cover this crap up? Unless they themselves condone it.
    This is another problem I have with it. Why for the love of God would you hurt your own organization by hiding these people. It puts you in a much different light if you hide them than if you just out them right away.

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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    And lets put the numbers into context...



    Confidential files from the Boy Scouts of America show that the organization knew of at least 1,000 suspected child molesters from 1965 to 1985 and tried to hush it up, an attorney in a sexual abuse lawsuit charges.



    so 1000 "suspected" in 20 years?



    They all should have been at least kicked out and shame on the BSA for coverig it up, but to call it "preavalant" is unneeded hyperbole.
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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    And lets put the numbers into context...



    Confidential files from the Boy Scouts of America show that the organization knew of at least 1,000 suspected child molesters from 1965 to 1985 and tried to hush it up, an attorney in a sexual abuse lawsuit charges.



    so 1000 "suspected" in 20 years?



    They all should have been at least kicked out and shame on the BSA for coverig it up, but to call it "preavalant" is unneeded hyperbole.
    The point is they kept a significant problem a secret.

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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by windovervocalcords View Post
    The point is they kept a significant problem a secret.




    I think you are speculating? How many of those 1000 were complete bogus? We don't know. until we do, making statements they are keeping a "significant problem a secret" is a bit premature....



    But like I said, fingerprints and background checks at minimum.
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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    And lets put the numbers into context...



    Confidential files from the Boy Scouts of America show that the organization knew of at least 1,000 suspected child molesters from 1965 to 1985 and tried to hush it up, an attorney in a sexual abuse lawsuit charges.



    so 1000 "suspected" in 20 years?



    They all should have been at least kicked out and shame on the BSA for coverig it up, but to call it "preavalant" is unneeded hyperbole.
    i agree, the hyperbole is unnecessary when one recognizes that data indicates an average of 20 child molesters per state were known by BSA and they were still trusted to be out with our boys in the wilderness

    as a former scout leader i am appalled at the (in)action of BSA if this disclosure proves correct
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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    When I was a trainer in BSA we taught ways to protect the boys and the adults how to help avoid situations where any abuse could happen, and where a false accusation could arise. There was always to be at least 3 people in every goup, either 2 adults with one boy or 2 kids with one adult. This was to be followed whenever a non-relative adult escorted a boy anywhere! No excuses. I took a lot of **** for enforcing this 100%.

    There was also reference checking and questionaires asking for permission to do a police background check. If any adult balked at filling the app after being told of that question we HAD to report them. Evidence didn't matter. Someone higher up would look into it.

    So, there are indeed BSA rules and procedures in place to help minimize the chances of any abuse happening. I lost a good friend when he found out I reported him when he acted funny, and decided not to fill out the app, after I explained the question and its reason to him. Turns out he had other illegalities to hide that had nothing to do with pedophilia. Didn't matter to me. My obligation, as a Cubmaster, to protect my boys was priority #1. Most BSA leaders take this seriously. The problem is usually with those at the top who have political reasons for hiding abuse complaints.

    Boy and Cub Scouts is in effect a candy store for pedophiles. They are going to try to get in there. It's up to the leaders to Do Their Best to stop them. BSA is a great program that offers so much for our young men. It's a real shame that this **** ruins it for so many.
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    Re: Boy Scouts of America Keep Secret Dossier on Extensive Sex Abuses

    One of the few adult pedophiles I've ever known was a local boy scout leader who also chaired our county's child abuse prevention task force.
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