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    Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Here is President Obama speaking earlier this week on the outskirts of Cleveland:

    You know, the most insidious argument they’re making is the idea that somehow [Obamacare] would hurt Medicare. I know we’ve got some seniors here with us today. . . . But I want to tell you directly: This proposal adds almost a decade of solvency to Medicare. . . . And every senior should know there is no cutting of your guaranteed Medicare benefits. Period. No "ifs," "ands," or "buts." This proposal makes Medicare stronger, it makes the coverage better, and it makes the finances more secure. And anybody who says otherwise is either misinformed — or they’re trying to misinform you. Don’t let them hoodwink you. They’re trying to hoodwink you.

    The Congressional Budget Office (CBO), not known for hoodwinking, says that about 40 percent of Obamacare — about $1 trillion out of $2.5 trillion over the bill's real first decade (2014 to 2023) — would be financed by diverting money out of Medicare. Over $200 billion of that would come from cuts in Medicare Advantage payments — about $21,000 per enrollee over those same ten years, according to the CBO. Taking nearly $1 trillion out of Medicare and spending it on Obamacare wouldn't make Medicare more solvent — quite the opposite — and it wouldn't extend Medicare's solvency by ten years — or, for that matter, by ten months, ten days, or even ten minutes....



    maybe it's like his "no tax increases for anyone under 250,000" pledge, where he just assumes everyone knows he's full of it?

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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    every senior should know there is no cutting of your guaranteed Medicare benefits. Period.
    Political double-talk? Maybe...

    Just gotta know what he's really talking about. So, what are the "guarenteed Medicare benefits" he's referring to? And was Medicar Advantage part of that cluster of guarenteed benefits? Something tells me it was not. But you'd have to look at the law that applies to Medicare to really know.

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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Of course he won't cut medicare. He's just going to start growing medical services on the White House lawn and giving them out for free.
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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by gopman View Post
    of course he won't cut medicare. He's just going to start growing medical services on the white house lawn and giving them out for free.
    damn socialists
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Here is President Obama speaking earlier this week on the outskirts of Cleveland:

    You know, the most insidious argument they’re making is the idea that somehow [Obamacare] would hurt Medicare. I know we’ve got some seniors here with us today. . . . But I want to tell you directly: This proposal adds almost a decade of solvency to Medicare. . . . And every senior should know there is no cutting of your guaranteed Medicare benefits. Period. No "ifs," "ands," or "buts." This proposal makes Medicare stronger, it makes the coverage better, and it makes the finances more secure. And anybody who says otherwise is either misinformed — or they’re trying to misinform you. Don’t let them hoodwink you. They’re trying to hoodwink you.

    The Congressional Budget Office (CBO), not known for hoodwinking, says that about 40 percent of Obamacare — about $1 trillion out of $2.5 trillion over the bill's real first decade (2014 to 2023) — would be financed by diverting money out of Medicare. Over $200 billion of that would come from cuts in Medicare Advantage payments — about $21,000 per enrollee over those same ten years, according to the CBO. Taking nearly $1 trillion out of Medicare and spending it on Obamacare wouldn't make Medicare more solvent — quite the opposite — and it wouldn't extend Medicare's solvency by ten years — or, for that matter, by ten months, ten days, or even ten minutes....

    maybe it's like his "no tax increases for anyone under 250,000" pledge, where he just assumes everyone knows he's full of it?
    Barack Obama would NEVER lie about cuts in Medicaid.

    It's not like Medicaid and ObamaCare are a money-losing proposition.

    Nah, according to Obama universal health care will save the country money... somehow, someway...

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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by Politics101 View Post
    Barack Obama would NEVER lie about cuts in Medicaid.

    It's not like Medicaid and ObamaCare are a money-losing proposition.

    Nah, according to Obama universal health care will save the country money... somehow, someway...
    UHC has saved money in literally every country that implements it, I don't see why it would do differently here. American unexceptionalism?
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    damn socialists
    If we had socialists, we would have single payer. Let's start using the right terminology

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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    damn socialists
    If we had socialists, we would have single payer. Let's start using the right terminology. We have no socialist with any power, hence we have this watered-down version of health care reform. The party of wimps vs the party of fools.

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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    UHC has saved money in literally every country that implements it, I don't see why it would do differently here. American unexceptionalism?
    Demographics, diet, lifestyle.

    There is a big difference between the U.S. and countries that have UHC.
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    Re: Obama: No Cuts To Medicare

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    UHC has saved money in literally every country that implements it, I don't see why it would do differently here. American unexceptionalism?
    How?? Anyone with a microgram of common sense (see also: Conservative) knows that once government gets its filthy mitts into anything other than what is Constitutionally mandated, it screws it up royally. And healthcare clearly does not belong in the purview of the government!


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