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Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

Erod.

The bill passed. Someone tell the Doctors.
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When you cannot get an appointment with a doctor and have to go to the ER like millions have to do now, call the WH and ask Obama for help.
 
When you cannot get an appointment with a doctor and have to go to the ER like millions have to do now, call the WH and ask Obama for help.

And when that never happens will you admit to foolishly listening to hyper-partisan talking points?
 
I currently have 200 doctors that have fled to Canada. I am training them to come back and retake America from the Obama Commies. They have told me horror stories of Death Panels and Gulags in Nevada. Don't worry America, they're coming to save you.
 
And when that never happens will you admit to foolishly listening to hyper-partisan talking points?

Why wouldn't it happen, it is happening now. Check out MA and its universal healthcare program. Find out how many are going to the ER because they cannot get a doctor's appointment. The only partisan ones here are people that support this POS legislation that does nothing to increase the number of doctors, number of hospitals, or actually reduces the cost of healthcare.


Overcoming Bias : Uninsured ER Fallacy

Overcoming Bias : Uninsured ER Fallacy

Insured patients using ER for primary care - SFGate
 
There are 3 waiting in line, and many foreigners who will take up the slack just for the priviledge to work here.

I love my doctor from China.
 
How do you know that WE are paying for people without insurance? you make that claim a lot especially when confused with facts. Millions of people can pay for their own healthcare and hospitals are billing them every day and getting payment. No taxpayer is paying for those fees.

In addition billions are spent annually for illegals, 600,000 in my own country last year. Eliminate those costs, eliminate your misconceptions about taxpayers paying for people who can afford insurance and are paying their own bills and you will find this isn't the crisis you claim it to be.

Who do you think pays for them? Seriously, the medical fairy?

Whether many can pay is meaningless if they don't pay. And if they don't pay, the hospital raises costs, causing premiums to raise. I have supported that.

BTW, if you quote something, it would be good to link it so others can see the entire article.
 
Who do you think pays for them? Seriously, the medical fairy?

Whether many can pay is meaningless if they don't pay. And if they don't pay, the hospital raises costs, causing premiums to raise. I have supported that.

BTW, if you quote something, it would be good to link it so others can see the entire article.

I know we pay for those that do not have insurance but the point is how many is that and is it as bad as you seem to believe? You don't know nor does it seem to matter to you.

this bill does nothing to improve the quality of healthcare or lower the true costs of healthcare. The infrastructure is broken now and thus the ER's are overburdened due to the doctor shortage and illegals.

Same tired old argument from you just a different day. Offer something of substance instead of your own opinions.
 
I know we pay for those that do not have insurance but the point is how many is that and is it as bad as you seem to believe? You don't know nor does it seem to matter to you.

this bill does nothing to improve the quality of healthcare or lower the true costs of healthcare. The infrastructure is broken now and thus the ER's are overburdened due to the doctor shortage and illegals.

Same tired old argument from you just a different day. Offer something of substance instead of your own opinions.
Pot, meet kettle?
The conservatives who hate the new health care plan are strangely forgetful that so much of it was originally proposed by Republicans....
I suppose they were all RINO types?
 
Pot, meet kettle?
The conservatives who hate the new health care plan are strangely forgetful that so much of it was originally proposed by Republicans....
I suppose they were all RINO types?

Not sure how much of this was proposed by Republicans nor does it matter. Govt. is too big, never intended to do what liberals want it to do, costs more than intended.
 
Not sure how much of this was proposed by Republicans nor does it matter. Govt. is too big, never intended to do what liberals want it to do, costs more than intended.

Govt never grows during a republican adminstration?
Did anyone ever document any doctors quitting yet? I suspect if any do, it will only be those who "quit" like I did my last job, I RETIRED...
 
Govt never grows during a republican adminstration?
Did anyone ever document any doctors quitting yet? I suspect if any do, it will only be those who "quit" like I did my last job, I RETIRED...

Tell me why you support this POS legislation that does nothing to lower the costs of healthcare, improve the quality, and grow the infrastructure?

Texas doctors fleeing Medicare in droves | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

You seem to want so badly for the govt. to be something it never was intended to be and the question is why?
 
Not sure how much of this was proposed by Republicans nor does it matter. Govt. is too big, never intended to do what liberals want it to do, costs more than intended.

Generalize much? What parts of govt services would you kill to reduce the size of govt?
 
Tell me why you support this POS legislation that does nothing to lower the costs of healthcare, improve the quality, and grow the infrastructure?

Texas doctors fleeing Medicare in droves | Houston & Texas News | Chron.com - Houston Chronicle

You seem to want so badly for the govt. to be something it never was intended to be and the question is why?
Opting out of medicare is not the same as quitting medicine....
I support the health care bill as long as it forces people to buy the insurance that they can afford. I know personally too many who say that cannot afford it, but drive new cars, have multiple cell phones, internet, cable TV, etc.
 
Forty nine pages, and still no one has explained why knowing that all of their patients are insured would inspire half of the doctors in the US to quit medicine.

Conceded: There is nothing in the health care bill to reduce costs. Making the deadbeats pay their own way should help spread the cost around a little, but expect premiums to continue to soar, just as they have been doing for at least the past three decades.

If only we could have had a rational debate about what was actually in the bill, maybe then a real solution could have been found. Alas, our government is not into rational debates, nor into doing what is best for the country over what is best for the party.
 
Not sure how much of this was proposed by Republicans nor does it matter. Govt. is too big, never intended to do what liberals want it to do, costs more than intended.
No, its not too big.
Private enterprise has failed miserably with health care - primarily in that it has become too expensive.
This was not a problem even 100 years ago, then, there simply was no health care to speak of.
The question is, should all of the wonderful advances be available for the poor and the working poor, even the middle class..??????
Government simply must step in and subsidize these costs, as the more advanced European and Canadian nations have done. The conservatives are holding us back.
 
Generalize much? What parts of govt services would you kill to reduce the size of govt?

You may never receive an answer here from any conservative nor libertarian. This requires thought, deep thought. I feel, that in order for health care to work well, its must be "socialized".
 
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I know we pay for those that do not have insurance but the point is how many is that and is it as bad as you seem to believe? You don't know nor does it seem to matter to you.

this bill does nothing to improve the quality of healthcare or lower the true costs of healthcare. The infrastructure is broken now and thus the ER's are overburdened due to the doctor shortage and illegals.

Same tired old argument from you just a different day. Offer something of substance instead of your own opinions.

It is as bad as I believe. I'm not sure what you think I believe. ;)

And I have spelled out how it helps, and that improvement will be needed. If obstructionist had not push to remove the most effective efforts, it could have been a better bill, but this is a start, a needed start.
 
You may never receive an answer here from any conservative nor libertarian. This requires thought, deep thought. I feel, that in order for health care to work well, its must be "socialized".

Have you ever taken a history or civics course? The answer is pretty simple if you have. The role of the govt. according to our founders is limited with most power left to the states. That being said, the role of the govt. is simply to defend this country and stop their social engineering.

Pretty simple then, defense, VA, and not much else. Obviously you don't have a clue as to what is in the budget of the United States. Let me help you and when you go there and see our 3.8 trillion dollar budget, it is easy to see what needs to be cut, most of it except defense and defense related expenses.

http://fms.treas.gov/annualreport/cs2008/receipt.pdf

It really is sad the lack of education far too many have regarding the purpose of the Federal Govt.
 
It is as bad as I believe. I'm not sure what you think I believe. ;)

And I have spelled out how it helps, and that improvement will be needed. If obstructionist had not push to remove the most effective efforts, it could have been a better bill, but this is a start, a needed start.

What you have pointed out are predictions and projections, none of which are close to happening.

This so called start costs over a trillion dollars. you don't have a clue as to how much a trillion dollars is and thus you call it a good start. it wasn't too long ago that the entire budget of the United States was a trillion dollars.

You want so badly to believe what you are told that you ignore history and the lies politicians tell you.
 
Why do you ask that when you know just about every one raised schooled in the USA has taken one?

There is no evidence that you or many others here have taken a civics or a history course unless you slept through them. You don't seem to understand the role of govt. or how our govt. works with three equal branches, that is of course unless a Democrat is in the WH then it is everyone else's fault.
 
There is no evidence that you or many others here have taken a civics or a history course unless you slept through them. You don't seem to understand the role of govt. or how our govt. works with three equal branches, that is of course unless a Democrat is in the WH then it is everyone else's fault.

I guess your platitude of effervescence in understanding is just simply better than everyone else's. At least in your own mind.
 
I guess your platitude of effervescence in understanding is just simply better than everyone else's. At least in your own mind.

Very true as content of the posts shows. I have yet to see you respond to any content but instead divert from that content
 
Very true as content of the posts shows. I have yet to see you respond to any content but instead divert from that content

Reagan had a 10% unemployment rate wadda you say oh master of content?
 
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