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Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

Boo Radley said:
It is your opinion that it is true. You're wrong mind you, but I won't argue that YOU don't believe it. Only that he and you are mostly wrong (not 100%).

And whenever you or anyone start with an absolute, the government can't run any program, you should stop, take a deep breath, and reevaluate your thinking. There are very few absolutes in the real world.
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History is on my side and the MA results support my point of view. What makes your opinion better than mine? Facts always get in the way of a liberal feeling. I asked what happened if this is a multi trillion dollar mistake and got silence. Says a lot about you and your opinions.
 
Conservative said:
History is on my side and the MA results support my point of view. What makes your opinion better than mine? Facts always get in the way of a liberal feeling. I asked what happened if this is a multi trillion dollar mistake and got silence. Says a lot about you and your opinions.
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Again, I point to Hawaii, and the fact that people are not clamoring to give back the social programs you say failed. ;) :doh
 
Boo Radley said:
Again, I point to Hawaii, and the fact that people are not clamoring to give back the social programs you say failed. ;) :doh
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LOL, that is your argument? You really haven't a clue about human nature. 48% of the people in this country aren't clamoring for tax cuts either because they pay no federal income taxes. people aren't going to give back what the govt. has given them with other people's money. You really are naive.
 
Conservative said:
LOL, that is your argument? You really haven't a clue about human nature. 48% of the people in this country aren't clamoring for tax cuts either because they pay no federal income taxes. people aren't going to give back what the govt. has given them with other people's money. You really are naive.
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There are more taxes than federal income taxes, and many who have these programs do pay taxes. Medicare isn't just for those below poverty level. Neither is SS.
 
Boo Radley said:
There are more taxes than federal income taxes, and many who have these programs do pay taxes. Medicare isn't just for those below poverty level. Neither is SS.
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With a 1.6 trillion dollar deficit today there isn't the funding you believe. Medicare was never intended to be for those below the poverty level, Medicaid was and Medicaid is state provided.
 
Boo Radley said:
NO, I ignore a poor, poor site and ask for you to get something more credible. If Hannity has anything right, you should be able to link a credible source. ;)
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Look, Boo, I ignore nothing but you ignore history as well as verifiable links showing the doctor shortage in this country, insured using the ER's, and the cost of the MA program. Then I give you actual quotes involving Hawaii but none of that is good enough for you so please don't talk to me about providing links. You believe what you believe in spite of history and actual data. Nothing changes the mind of an ideologue. You want so badly for this POS to succeed that you ignore what is really in it.
 
Conservative said:
Look, Boo, I ignore nothing but you ignore history as well as verifiable links showing the doctor shortage in this country, insured using the ER's, and the cost of the MA program. Then I give you actual quotes involving Hawaii but none of that is good enough for you so please don't talk to me about providing links. You believe what you believe in spite of history and actual data. Nothing changes the mind of an ideologue. You want so badly for this POS to succeed that you ignore what is really in it.
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Not quotes from a credible site. I'm sorry, but you need more than anything that comes from Hannity's site. As long as you use such a poor site, you cannot expect anyone to address it.
 
Boo Radley said:
Not quotes from a credible site. I'm sorry, but you need more than anything that comes from Hannity's site. As long as you use such a poor site, you cannot expect anyone to address it.
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So individual quotes NOT from Hannity are false because they are on the Hannity site? got it! Thanks for showing who you are and that actual quotes only matter on sites that you believe credible. Why don't you prove the quotes wrong or false?
 
Conservative said:
So individual quotes NOT from Hannity are false because they are on the Hannity site? got it! Thanks for showing who you are and that actual quotes only matter on sites that you believe credible. Why don't you prove the quotes wrong or false?
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Hannity tends to present them, or misrepresent them, or pick people who misrepresents the truth, so nothing on Hannity can be taken at face value. Nothing. As a source, he has no merit and should not be used by anyone.
 
Boo Radley said:
Hannity tends to present them, or misrepresent them, or pick people who misrepresents the truth, so nothing on Hannity can be taken at face value. Nothing. As a source, he has no merit and should not be used by anyone.
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I see, so the QUOTES provided are misrepresentation of the truth. I would think that the misrepresentation of the truth would destroy a reputation and should result in a lawsuit. Let me know when that lawsuit is filed.
 
Conservative said:
I see, so the QUOTES provided are misrepresentation of the truth. I would think that the misrepresentation of the truth would destroy a reputation and should result in a lawsuit. Let me know when that lawsuit is filed.
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Yes, that is the tendency coming from Hannity. No one can take anything on his site at face value.

Again, if you have a credible source, link it.
 
Boo Radley said:
Yes, that is the tendency coming from Hannity. No one can take anything on his site at face value.

Again, if you have a credible source, link it.
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Just another link that won't matter

Hawaii's Compulsory Health-Care System Is No Model - Sam Slom - Critical Condition on National Review Online

You only buy what the NY Times tells you or any other leftwing site but again you miss the point entirely. If this is such a good program it would be duplicated by other states. What you claim works in Hawaii isn't working in MA and there is no way the Federal govt. can implement anything of this size better than individual states or communities.

There is no such thing as a free lunch no matter how much liberals claim that there is. Unfortunately in this country almost 50% of the people pay no income taxes thus have no problem having their responsibility paid by others.
 
Boo Radley said:
It is your opinion that it is true. You're wrong mind you, but I won't argue that YOU don't believe it. Only that he and you are mostly wrong (not 100%).

And whenever you or anyone start with an absolute, the government can't run any program, you should stop, take a deep breath, and reevaluate your thinking. There are very few absolutes in the real world.
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This is what he really said, acurate reading comprehension requires using all the words that were written.

In spite of the evidence that the Federal Govt. doesn't run any social program well, you continue to support it. That is liberal arrogance.
 
cholla said:
This is what he really said, acurate reading comprehension requires using all the words that were written.

In spite of the evidence that the Federal Govt. doesn't run any social program well, you continue to support it. That is liberal arrogance.
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Where is the majority support for the discontinuation of Medicare/Medicaid, SS and the US military? Which party has their discontinuation in their platform?
 
Catawba said:
That's what the 2008 election mandate was all about!
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Do you get daily talking points from the DNC or George Soros? There was no mandate in the 2008 elections to change this country from everything that the majority believes in. Obama got 52% of the vote, one point higher than GW Bush got in 2004. Was that a mandate then?
 
Catawba said:
Where is the majority support for the discontinuation of Medicare/Medicaid, SS and the US military? Which party has their discontinuation in their platform?
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Discontinuation? Ok, I'll bite, which party has discontinuation in their platform?
 
Conservative said:
Obama got 52% of the vote, one point higher than GW Bush got in 2004. Was that a mandate then?
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A majority is all it takes in Republic to change representatives and priorities. Health care reform was one of the top three election issues, behind the economy and ending the Iraq war.

While Obama has not addressed all three in the same manner I would have, he has made progress with all three of the major issues of the voters in the 2008 election.
 
Conservative said:
Discontinuation? Ok, I'll bite, which party has discontinuation in their platform?
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None, that's my point, and they are more collectivist than HCR. I was asked why I support social programs. I support them for the same reasons the majority of Americans do and both the Republican and Democrat representatives of the people, because they help create and maintain a middle class in this country.
 
Catawba said:
A majority is all it takes in Republic to change representatives and priorities. Health care reform was one of the top three election issues, behind the economy and ending the Iraq war.

While Obama has not addressed all three in the same manner I would have, he has made progress with all three of the major issues of the voters in the 2008 election.
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Great, now you have supported legislation that does nothing to improve quality, lower costs, and improve the infrastructure but minions like you support the shift to the left. Let's see if the country agrees with you in November.
 
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