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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    This is like those people who claimed they move to Canada if Bush won or crap like that. What would they really do if they quit? Nothing, beg for money on the street. 50% of doctors would not quit if (and I guess now that) health care reform was passed. It's a bluff. They may not like it, but they would most likely be unwilling to give up their lifestyle in order to quit. I'd like to see that sort of resolve in fact, people holding to their words instead of making outrageous comments they'd never back up if push came to shove.
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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the doctor shortage, or brain drain, has been a huge problem in canadian health care for years

    i can find you tens of links from govt websites, the provinces and ottawa in turn promising the citizenry to fix this problem which everyone agrees is serious, going back more than a decade

    CBC News - Health - Family doctor shortage major hurdle to health care: study

    Addressing doctor shortage crucial, says group - CTV News

    CBC.ca - Canada Votes - Why MDs are scarce and what can be done about it

    google---canadian wait times alliance

    you'll be shocked at what THEY ADMIT TO
    Yes, Canadian doctors who are not by any means underpaid ( earning at least $100 000 a year) tended to go to the US to earn even more money.

    The low CAD at the time was also a significant issue

    A secondary issue is that during the 80-90's spots in medicals schools were cut to limit the number of doctors being trained
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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Obama is sickening. He pulls a bunch of white coats up on stage as if the medical community is completely "behind him" on this. Obviously, they are not.
    What's sickening is your gullibility and your willingness to post any piece of partisan junk your masters tell you to...

    WTF is the Medicus Firm?????

    Let me guess, they stand to lose money with health care reform....

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    If some doctors quit, there are plenty of other young MDs from India and other countries who would jump at the chance to replace them.
    Most doctors don't want to work in gynecology and obstetrics anymore; it's one of the lowest paid specialties (the other is pediatrics), and they get sued a lot (like, practically every time someone's baby is born with a disability).

    The field has been virtually taken over by young Indian and middle-Eastern female doctors.

    And you know what? That's just fine with me.
    They're just as good as the middle-aged white male doctors that used to dominate the field, in my opinion.

    If doctors leave, more doctors will replace them. Many would jump at the opportunity. The world's full of promising young med school graduates, and also full of people who would prefer to live in the US than in their country of origin.
    End of story.
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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Yes, Canadian doctors who are not by any means underpaid ( earning at least $100 000 a year) tended to go to the US to earn even more money.

    The low CAD at the time was also a significant issue

    A secondary issue is that during the 80-90's spots in medicals schools were cut to limit the number of doctors being trained
    the links provided were from 2006, 2004 and 2008

    there are hundreds more, you want em?

    march 17, 2008:

    Ad blitz aiming to cure doctor shortage

    february 29 (leap year!), 2008:

    http://www.canada.com/reginaleaderpo...2-da393bdfb663

    google---wait times alliance canadian health care

    you'll be shocked at what they ADMIT to

    one can only imagine the pressure applied by the public
    Last edited by The Prof; 03-23-10 at 06:01 AM.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    You are 19 and you are a pre-med student. Are you aware how many pre-med students there are? Seriously, kid. You might not even be accepted into med school yet you are calling yourself a "pre-med" student. My best advice is to study something that you like without the plan on becoming a doctor.
    Because the chances of you becoming a doctor even with a good GPA are not likely. I have known many associates who studied pre-med and didn't get in, and they were smart too. Perfect GPA, good score on their exams. Still nothing. Of the 13 I know. Four of them got into med school, if you want more advice, I suggesst you study biology & chemistry as a double major. And get a good GPA. Remember the Medical Association of America/American Doctor Association do not want for too many people to study medicine. It's a racket really.
    But you won't believe me anyways.
    Pre-med means he's taking the courses necessary to get into med school. There's no point in being condescending to digsbe. He also is considering pharmacy school, he stated in his post. I'm sure he is aware of what is ahead of him in getting into med school, that isn't top secret information...

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    As far as the claim of 50% of doctors wanting to quit medicine, that's probably true without this bill too. Many doctors are fed up with the bureaucratic and regulatory overkill they face everyday. The mountains of paperwork, charting, insurance company demands, the list goes on and on. Add on top of that the demands of patients, some of whom would only be too happy to sue them for all they're worth.

    Trouble is, 99% of doctors need an income to pay bills, plain and simple. Just like everyone, they have mortgages too.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Yeah, that's the attitude we want doctors to have.

    Dude, why do you have doctors so much? Get kicked out of med school or something?
    I don't think it's necessarily Doctors that he hates, it's profits that doctors desire that he hates.

    Profits are bad! Capitalism is bad! Social justice and an equal share of a commodity... good?

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    google---wait times alliance canadian health care

    you'll be shocked at what they ADMIT to
    In Massacusetts' state-sponsored healthcare plan, the wait time to see a doctor is already 42 days.

    Not to mention, they have the highest insurance premiums in the country.

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    Re: Nearly 50 percent of doctors ready to quit medicine if Healthcare bill passes

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the links provided were from 2006, 2004 and 2008

    there are hundreds more, you want em?

    march 17, 2008:

    Ad blitz aiming to cure doctor shortage

    february 29 (leap year!), 2008:

    The doctor won't see you now

    google---wait times alliance canadian health care

    you'll be shocked at what they ADMIT to

    one can only imagine the pressure applied by the public
    What is the problem I admitted Canada had a doctor shortage, heck we even have a nursing (RN) shortage. RN in Alberta working 32 hr a week can earn over $60 000. Ones willing to work overtime can make $80 000 and still only work 40 hrs per week

    I am saying it is not like the nurses or doctors are generally underpaid, or poorly compensated in other areas

    Overall I just dont see more then 5% of US doctors quiting or moving because of this. They just dont have anywhere to go where they will make the same amount of money. No other country will pay them the same (plus they will have to learn a foreign langauge), and there are not that many positions in the US that doctors can do, that would allow for more then at most 5% to quit being doctors
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